Heroes In Crisis #8

After eight long months we finally know what happened at the Sanctuary, so does Lois Lane and, soon, so will the rest of the DC Universe at large. I know that this series has affected me, so how will the heroes of the DC Universe feel when they have the truth revealed? Read Full Review

Ultimately I loved this issue as a great story that focuses on a sensitive topic that isn't often enough discussed, and I feel it handled this subject matter in a meaningful way that will have a major impact on The DC Comics Universe of stories. Read Full Review

This amazing team has managed to answer all of our questions in one issue. The pacing is masterful and every page feels more massive than the one before it. As always King and Gerads are a winning combination. Read Full Review

The art by Mitch Gerards and Travis Moore is hauntingly beautiful. There is so much emotion and pain in all the characters and that is given vivid reality through the art. Read Full Review

DC's Heroes in Crisis provides plenty of answers and an emotionally rich story, but big concerns still remain. Read Full Review

This is it. The moment readers have been waiting for since the first issue of Heroes in Crisis hit the shelves back in September. Though the big revelation should be the apex of this issue, it's the character study - nay, deconstruction - that drives the book, and the series as a whole. Read Full Review

All in all, I think Heroes in Crisis #8 anchors the story in a necessary way. It's hard to predict where the series as a whole will fall, but as a lead in to the final culmination, at the very least it's grabbed my heart and my interest. Read Full Review

Ignoring the questions that would ultimately bring this down. As it is? Heroes in Crisis #8 was a work of art. So much emotion was poured into speaking to the part of a heroes life that we dare not explore. The parts which show us that no one is impervious to the things that break normal people. Read Full Review

A very well crafted issue that explains the complicated emotions Wally is dealing with as he struggles to get rectify events that spiraled out of his control. I encourage everyone to read it and reserve judgment until the story has concluded next month. Read Full Review

Tom King is wandering in uncharted territory and while I may not have always enjoyed Heroes in Crisis I recognize its value and the importance it has on readers and comic book writing as a whole. Read Full Review

For a book that promised to deliver a meta-textual story, we are now eight issues down, we are down to the last 22 pages. Will it have a happy ending? Will it have any impact on anything at all? As a warning message about how PTSD affects a person, with the amount of time it has taken to get here, I am not sure how effective it is. At this stage, i think I can applaud the idea, even if at times the execution has been a tad wayward. Read Full Review

There's no going back here, and that's a damn shame, and it makes this entire series feel rather sadistic and ultimately pointless. Read Full Review

A word of warning to all future comic creators; avoid creating legacy characters of revive them later. Read Full Review

Heroes In Crisis #8 is a murder mystery denouement filtered through a half-finished PSA - in its efforts to perhaps elevate the genre’s exploration of grief and the hero’s burden through the framework of a more traditional caped crimefighter tale, it winds up being half of both, and neither as satisfying as a team like King and Gerads are capable of delivering. Read Full Review

The issue is one that I both love and hate. There's so much right and so much wrong at the same time. This will easily be the most controversial superhero comic of the year and folks will be up in arms. Unfortunately, that emotion is what stands out most of the issue. For a series about PTSD it has been hit and miss as far as connecting emotionally with those hurting and this issue is a prime example of that flaw. Read Full Review

In the end, my own confession is I'm still not sure how I feel about HiC, other than bad right now today. This comic is trying something, and it's complex. I'd like to see it in full before calling it a failure. I also haven't entirely processed why this story makes me feel so awful. It could be the wrong character or characters are involved, or the disorientation at the start muddied my emotional investment, or simply that mass murder is inherently awful, regardless of its context. Read Full Review

The art of Heroes in Crisis #8 is superb. The same can't be said for anything else about it. Read Full Review

It really hurts me to say how much I don't like HEROES IN CRISIS. This is the epitome of telling and not showing, and it does a disservice to readers. There are some problematic ideas about mental health being violent here, as well. And while the art is great, I almost have no time to talk about it because the writing falls so short. (Sorry, Tom King, I still adore you.) Read Full Review

The artistry is on point, and some of the ideas work, but the penultimate issue of Heroes in Crisis does little more than just explain what happened. Read Full Review

Screw this festering wound of an excuse for a comic. Its writing is stilted and it fails as a supposed mystery, but the fact that the entire thing is just an excuse to make Wally West a murderer" That's what pushed me over the line. With as bad a treatment as this character and its fans have gotten, he deserved better and the readers deserved better. Screw this damned book and all the souls that helped it slid out of the diseased birth canal that is the current state of the DC Universe. Read Full Review

There is absolutely no reason why any reader should ever waste a penny of their hard-earned money on Heroes in Crisis #8. This entire big event has been a sad waste of time and money on both the part of DC Comics and the reader. Read Full Review

The issue is gorgeous thanks to the work of Mitch Gerads and Travis Moore, but unless the finale delivers a big surprise this story is not sticking the landing. Read Full Review

The killer is revealed in this issue, but despite all of the revelations, I still don't believe the reveal is the truth. Regardless, whatever is the truth, I feel as though it doesn't matter. This story has gone nowhere, and with a mere twenty-two pages left, I can't imagine that it actually will go anywhere. The interesting aspects of Heroes in Crisis are long gone, and now I just want the story to end so we can move on. There are too many holes, conveniences, and examples of piss-poor characterization for me to remotely care about this book or take it seriously" And that really is a shame because this book, as a whole, does have moments of greatness. Read Full Review

VerdictI didn't like this issue. It feels a little mean spirited but not in a way that's interesting. Wally's reveal makes this series a lot more generic than it I thought it was. The story is not over so it could go somewhere interesting but this issue on its own doesn't work for me. The art is nice though. Read Full Review

This comic is an absolute travesty. I cannot possibly recommend anybody spend their hard-earned money on it, nor even waste their time reading it for free online. Skip this comic at all costs or be prepared for some righteous anger. Read Full Review

This is a gorgeous comic book but the ludicrous story pulled me back. This isn't as emotionally investigative or genuine as Tom King thinks, and that's unfortunate. Read Full Review

This might be DC's most controversial issue since Batman's wedding. I don't expect a lot of longtime DC readers to be happy. Maybe King has some fantastic finale planned, but this isn't the one to have readers excited about the end of this very divisive story. Read Full Review

Maybethe story as initially intended might run better, but this one is justinsulting. If you are still collecting this series, please get help. And if youare still reading it, please get medicated. Read Full Review

Heroes In Crisis is tragically disappointing. It's a book with a fantastic creative team handling some phenomenal characters. But ultimately, it feels hollow, serving a mystery plot that doesn't work Read Full Review

But the series is also driving away longtime readers - like me - who won't take kindly to this vulgar, ugly, and offensive treatment of characters they've loved for decades. Read Full Review

It's insulting and shows a contempt for the audience that does not feel intentional but is there nevertheless. It excavates King's larger misunderstanding of who Wally is and what motivates him as well as bringing into relief just how little we know about how Sanctuary was supposed to work. Read Full Review

Andrea D’Alò

Apr 24, 2019

We’re here, at the end. I had questions, here I found the answers. Who How Why The pacing is great and the introspection of Wally’s personal trauma is really good.

axdn

Apr 24, 2019

Can't wait to see what's next!!!

JonnyO

Apr 24, 2019

Absolutely loved this book!! Deals with mental health in an incredible way and shows the vulnerability of its characters

Æther

Apr 24, 2019

Amazing stuff.

Batman Jones

Apr 28, 2019

I've never taken a comic book so personally nor identified with a comic character so completely.

I Review Comics

Apr 26, 2019

For more reviews subscribe: https://www.gtmediareviews.com/ We've arrived at the point in the month when I read Tom King's Heroes in Crisis and Tom Scioli's Go-Bot's. Unfortunately, Go-Bots has ended and we're left with is Heroes in Crisis.  I visited my Local Comic Shop late this week and by the time I got there, the ending had already been spoiled. Actually, I'm not sure if you can really talk about this comic without discussing the reveal so Ill get it out of the way.  Wally West, traumatized from the events of DC Rebirth and the loss of his wife and children has snapped and is revealed to be the murderer behind the events at Sanctuary.  So my working theory walking into this issue was that HIC was an Elseworlds story. After reading the series I don't believe it's an Elseworlds story at all. I think there is more to the story than the explanation we're given but I don't believe we're in an alternate reality anymore.  My theory after reading the issue is that the trauma is really but Wally was being influenced by the Psycho-Pirate Mask. I'm not sold on Heroes in Crisis, a matter of fact if you've been following these reviews you know that the series kinda lost me after issue 2. I feel that there are other stories to be told that can be just as compelling without being oppressively dark or macabre HIC, The Grim Knight, DCeased, Dark Knights Metal are all solid stories but give the impression that the publisher is currently in a bad head space at the moment and needs counseling. I'm not sure if the current mood around the DC line is a result of the cutbacks to the number of books being published but something is definitely off and series such as this one is sure to alienate long term fans.  All that being said this is easily the best issue of the series to date. Wally has lost everything, his wife and kids are gone and he's currently stuck in an alternate reality where everyone is basically a shadow of the people that he loved and grew up with. Imagine if you were in this situation? This is Wally's life right now and there is no going back. The anger I'm seeing toward the issue on social media is that Wally has been destroyed. I don't really have an argument against the claim but based solely on the fallout from "rebirth" I get why Tom went this route. If Wally wasn't dealing with any lingering issues relating to the loss of his wife and kids it would have been just as jarring.  One of the appeals of an "Elseworlds" or "What If" scenario is that you get to see an alternate timeline and see how slight changes could have resulted in a different outcome (usually catastrophic). In this instance, this is Wally's life. I'm not sure if Heroes in Crisis is an indictment of the optimism that Rebirth endeared with the character and the line in general but it sure feels like it. One that note the twist is actually pretty clever and puts a real-world spin on a fantastical situation. I'm not saying this is the story I would have landed on but I understand.  The biggest issue with the series is the decompression. This could have easily been issue 4 of 5 but it's been padded out to an insane degree for whatever reason. The stuff with Superman probably could have been cut altogether. The Batman/Flash stuff seems irrelevant. What the focus should have been squarely on since the series inception is Wally West and what he has been dealing with every day. The writing for this issue is very strong and it easily one of the best written issues of the year. I suffer from high functioning depression and have lulls throughout the week. Not to the extreme that Wally has, but I understand wearing a mask of optimism publicly while struggling with internal demons. We started getting glimpses of this in the previous issue but it should have been the throughline. in Hindsight the stuff with Booster/Harley just seems silly. The way the story is being told is also strange because the characters feel off and not quite human.  One thing that isn't in question is the art direction. Mitch Gerads and Travis Moore's are amazing. Every page is jaw-dropping and worth the price of admission alone. It doesn't really stand out as much because the issue is so melancholy but the pencils throughout the issue are amazing. Once you get past the shock of the events I implore you to go back and look at the issue again, it's simply stunning.  This is a prestige format but and DC kept the cover price to 3.99.  I appreciate that.  I feel like DC editorial failed Tom in this series.  There are flashes of greatness throughout the series but the focus seems to be all over the place. You have the Silliness with Booster and Harley undercutting the real meat of the event. I'm not sure what went on behind the scenes at DC Comics but if the focus had been entirely on Sanctuary and the events there I guarantee the series would have gone over better with fans. Decompression hurts comics. Heroes in Crisis an Doomsday Clock are prime examples of why decompressed storytelling needs to be put to pasture. It really hurts these stories and ends up feeling like uneven cash grabs because of the sheer amount of filler or irrelevant material. There is a great story in this event but it's buried in the minutiae. more

NoName97

Apr 24, 2019

Very good story. But it is to hard to understand for most comics readers, that's why it has so bad raiting.

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Andrea D’Alò - Apr 24, 2019

That’s true.

Talon1load - Apr 24, 2019

It’s hard to understand bad writing. It’s apparently hard for King to understand how computers work as well.

Andrea D’Alò - Apr 24, 2019

Yup, it’s hard tho comprehend The greatness of Tom King’s writing. The depth of it and of his characters.

Branden Murray - Apr 24, 2019

Guys I think I found Tom Kings burner account!

Talon1load - Apr 24, 2019

Nah, pretty sir they are just a troll.

Talon1load - Apr 24, 2019

Sure

egonnn244 - Apr 24, 2019

I am giving it a like. For the sheer gall in his statement.

Darkseid24 - Apr 24, 2019

I wouldnt give it a 8, but this issue made sense for me.

myconius - Apr 24, 2019

i wonder who the parent account belong's to? the way they were review bombing that Spiderman story.

Psycamorean - Apr 24, 2019

While I'm pretty sure this is a troll, you wouldn't believe the number of people that actually think they're smarter than others for liking Tom King

myconius - Apr 24, 2019

YourGreenMuse - how terribly ironic.

Andrea D’Alò - Apr 25, 2019

I'm not a troll and I don't think that I'm in someway smarter than you. Cheers.

myconius - Apr 25, 2019

Andrea D’Alò - you're not the one making numerous profiles, are you?

Andrea D’Alò - Apr 25, 2019

no, I am not making numerous profiles and I don't know why NoName is not answering.

myconius - Apr 25, 2019

i'm not sure. i could be wrong, but i read it as he was implying that towards the person making numerous accounts. at least that how i read it.

Darkseid24 - Apr 25, 2019

I think just because people like something others don’t, doesn’t mean he/ she made a fake account. This is a story you either hate or love it seems.

myconius - Apr 25, 2019

Darkseid24 - the admin of this site specifically called out this NoName97 person for making multiple profiles and review bombing. - - https://comicbookroundup.com/comic-books/reviews/marvel-comics/spider-man-life-story/2

Darkseid24 - Apr 25, 2019

I see. Didn’t know that.

myconius - Apr 25, 2019

and knowing is half the battle. (GGGGGGGGGGG. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII. JOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEE!) sorry. the opportunity to use that quote was just way too tempting. 😂😂😂😂

Darkseid24 - Apr 25, 2019

Whatever you are quoting I don’t know it anyway 😂

Talon1load - Apr 26, 2019

What? How do you not know GI Joe?

myconius - Apr 26, 2019

Darkseid24 - check this short video out. >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFthiZ_Jftc

Darkseid24 - Apr 26, 2019

Thanks, never watched that lol

myconius - Apr 26, 2019

you're welcome :)

Andrea D’Alò - Apr 26, 2019

No, I’m not a troll and I love King.

Andrea D’Alò - Apr 27, 2019

Eisner nominated writer :).

Psycamorean - Apr 27, 2019

Yeah, he's overrated. And I think this event is the one where most people realize that. But not you.

Darkseid24 - Apr 27, 2019

I listened to an interview of King talking about HIC& it made a lot of sense, so in the end HIC is ok for me, but I’m worried about Batman run.

myconius - Apr 27, 2019

it made a lot of sense. please do elaborate.

Talon1load - Apr 27, 2019

You shouldn’t have to listen to the writer explain the story on a podcast for it to make sense. If it doesn’t make sense on the page then it is crap writing.

Darkseid24 - Apr 27, 2019

I understood it before, but it was still interesting to hear, what King had to say. Didn’t sound like he hates Wally. I agree with him, that it would be wrong to just forget about his trauma.

Talon1load - Apr 27, 2019

He could have felt with his trauma without turning him to a bad guy.

Darkseid24 - Apr 27, 2019

True, but I don’t think Wally is a villain. It was an accident

Psycamorean - Apr 27, 2019

That's not what made him a villain. It's what he did afterwards.

egonnn244 - Apr 28, 2019

I think what messed Wally up was the fact that Linda didn't know him and their children didn't exist.

myconius - Apr 28, 2019

i still don't think that'd be enough to drive Wally to try to cover up that he was responsible for his friend's deaths, or frame Booster Gold for murder. the entire premise is forced and silly.

Psycamorean - Apr 28, 2019

@DC Stuff read Flash War. That explains it. He was also on the Titans for the first 18 issues of the most recent run.

Talon1load - Apr 28, 2019

Yeah, Wally’s actions after the accident are what make him a villain. Not the accident itself. King destroyed a hero to fit his narrative that there is no hope by killing Rebirths symbol of it.

egonnn244 - Apr 28, 2019

Whatever the case, I hope that writers will stop referring to HiC in their books and maybe someone, in the future, will write this thing out of continuity. Maybe when Doomsday Clock wraps up it will happen.

Talon1load - Apr 28, 2019

That is what a lot of people are hoping.

Psycamorean - Apr 28, 2019

I think Doomsday Clock will have little to no impact on the DCU.

Darkseid24 - Apr 28, 2019

King was referring to his trauma of loosing everything thanks to Barry, but I also think the reason, why Wally broke was, because everyone else payed no attention to his trauma. Especially because it’s not the same. Bruce, Superman, WW, Barry haven’t lost everything, so it’s disrespectful to act like they did. I also don’t think what he did afterwards is worse than killing people. He was quite emotional there& as long as he doesn’t kill again he’s not a villain. I also think Doomsday Clock won’t

Darkseid24 - Apr 28, 2019

have any impact, especially because King said in his interview Barry is responsible for New52, while Doomsday Clock had the intention to blame Dr. Manhatten for it. It was also delayed again for like 2-3 months. Newest issue will be released end of May.

Talon1load - Apr 28, 2019

You don’t think that his going around and mutilating and staging the bodies of his “friends” to frame two innocent people is worse than accidentally losing control, no matter how much bullshit that was, and killing people? Seriously? How do you not see how those are the actions of a villain?

Talon1load - Apr 28, 2019

King can say that his fairy godmother was responsible for the New52, he’s not in a position to make any definitive calls for the greater DC universe. Until Dido, Lee, or preferably Johns make that definitive call, it’s all supposition. Snyder seems to have a large say these days too. With how crappy DC is doing right now, they should definitely use DDC to reset things. Again.

myconius - Apr 28, 2019

i've not been the biggest fan of Doomsday Clock, but i can appreciate it a lot more than HiC. i really hope DDC will actually reset all this nonsense that has been polluting the DCU as of late.

Talon1load - Apr 28, 2019

I’m a fan of DDC but it’s had some pacing issues outside of the ridiculous delays. My biggest complaint is that they shouldn’t have started Rebirth with everything binging on DDC if they couldn’t produce it on time. Or he’ll, at least close to on time. These delays are putting it over a year behind schedule I think? Ridiculous

Darkseid24 - Apr 28, 2019

Blaming other people for the murder makes Wally look like an ass, but killing his friends who trusted him is worse. However given the circumstances I think you can excuse both. Batman also once abandoned his lover in prison, framing her for murder, while he ran free instead of helping her in Bruce Wayne Fugitive. Again heroes aren’t perfect, they are flawed as well. I also think King has more to say these days in DC than Johns. I don’t want any of the two have a word in this. Both ruined

Darkseid24 - Apr 28, 2019

characters. However Didio allows King to do whatever he wants. And I don’t want another reboot as it was originally hinted with Doomsday Clock.

Talon1load - Apr 28, 2019

We’re going to have to agree to disagree here. I think accidental killings are bad but the lengths he went to to cover them up are the actions of a bad guy and I don’t see how that can be overcome. Batman leaving Sasha in prison while he solved Vespers murder was shitty but it wasn’t even in the same ballpark as what King had Wally do. Other than Batman and this travesty, I don’t know that King has had any real influence in the DCU. If anything, most writers seem to actively ignore the shit he

Talon1load - Apr 28, 2019

Writes. That’s why you rarely see his stories references anywhere else.

Darkseid24 - Apr 28, 2019

I guess we have. Both is bad, but trying to cover it up didn’t kill anyone& he’s not a villain, because he immediately regretted it. Otherwise he wouldn’t have killed himself& send it to Lois. Batman didn’t kill anyone that’s true, but it was an asshole move, just like Wally, but Wally was traumatized, while Batman just wanted to move on. He also didn’t leave Sasha to solve the murder, he left her to kill off Bruce Wayne& to just be Batman. Kings stories have a lot of influence.

Darkseid24 - Apr 28, 2019

There are references in Red Hood, Batgirl, Titans, Nightwing, Catwoman. If anything Detective Comics doesnt get referenced, but Kings Batman run& HIC definitely get.

Darkseid24 - Apr 28, 2019

It sucks, but King has a lot to say in DC currently. I however also don’t want Johns back. He ruined my favorite characters after all.

Talon1load - Apr 28, 2019

Again, you’re equating mutilating the bodies of his friends and framing two innocent people with being an asshole? Hell, there are serial killers who’ve regretted their actions initially. King has been around for 70 issues now and has not been referenced much at all. He’s had some references in a couple of Bat related books but nothing like you’d think. Even HiC has only been referenced a couple of times. I think you’re highly overestimating his influence.

Talon1load - Apr 28, 2019

He wrote a message in his victims blood. That is deliberate and psychopathic behavior.

Batman Jones - Apr 28, 2019

If you don't agree with Talon1load you're a troll. Same stuff I've come to know and avoid from them on CBR forums.

Talon1load - Apr 29, 2019

Actually, your comment here is kind of trolling. Sooooo

Talon1load - Apr 29, 2019

Instead of attacking me, why don’t you talk about this issue like we are.

Darkseid24 - Apr 29, 2019

It’s of course an asshole behavior, but nothing most people wouldn’t do. I thought it was worse what Green Lantern did in Cosmic Oddysey, since he killed billions of innocent out of mere stupidity& arrogance. He still was redeemed& so will be Wally. Wally has an excuse at least. And you are underestimating his influence. His stories get referenced in so many books I already told you. While Detective Comics doesn’t. According to interviews his City of Bane will also tie in Years of the villains,

Darkseid24 - Apr 29, 2019

which is DCs Next big event. DC also wouldn’t allow a writer to write a story like HIC, if said writer doesn’t have their trust& influence.

Andrea D’Alò - Apr 29, 2019

"If you don't agree with Talon1load you're a troll. Same stuff I've come to know and avoid from them on CBR forums." UHMMM. NO.

Talon1load - Apr 29, 2019

Last weeks review is the first that I recall ever interacting with Andrea and he was definitely trolling. Either way, why not actually talk to merits of the book?

Batman Jones - Apr 29, 2019

Not going to say more than this but it's common for you, Talon, to reply to a reader's comment about enjoying a book by calling them a troll or saying they must mean it sarcastically. Then you always follow up with "don't talk about me, talk about the book" which disregards the fact that you made it personal in the first place. Nobody should have to defend their appreciation for a comic book to you. No offense intended. Just tired of it.

Psycamorean - Apr 29, 2019

You do use the troll thing quite often, Talon1load.

myconius - Apr 29, 2019

i'd still like to know who the main account of NoName97 belongs to. i'd imagine they were doing quite a bit of review bombing to get called out by the site's admin.

Talon1load - Apr 29, 2019

I’ve called Andrea a troll twice but he was literally trolling. Other than that, I’ve questioned if people who give 10/10’s for books that are crap according to most other reviewers. Perhaps I’ve been wrong but I don’t think so. You mention me making it personal, I call them troll when they come to argue without providing anything of substance regarding the book. Andrea literally argued with me about his inability to understand proper English. He was trolling. But, I’ll try to stop calling peopl

Talon1load - Apr 29, 2019

People trolls.

Darkseid24 - Apr 29, 2019

I don’t think someone is a troll just because he disagrees with most reviews. Otherwise I also would be one with Nightwing. People have different taste. That’s it, but giving Batman 68 10/10, I also question that lol

Andrea D’Alò - Apr 29, 2019

For me HiC is a 10/10 because King talks about humanity and the sense of loss though superheroes, and for other reasons of course. For me Batman 68 in a 10/10 because King talks about love, to be loved and to love in a Batman story, re-defining the character of Batman in a very coherent way.

Andrea D’Alò - Apr 29, 2019

Now, am I trolling?

Andrea D’Alò - Apr 30, 2019

I also wrote a few lines in my review, if you want to answer do it there, on MY review, ok?

Psycamorean - Apr 30, 2019

If that's your reason, you need to consume more media. Because neither of those issues are groundbreaking like you seem to believe.

Batman Jones - Apr 30, 2019

Thank you, Andrea. Both issues were excellent and it's messed up that one has to defend what they're enjoying.

myconius - Apr 30, 2019

i still would like to know who this burner account belongs to.

Talon1load - Apr 30, 2019

Your opinion isn’t what makes you a troll. The stupid incessant arguing you did last week about the way a review was written does.

Andrea D’Alò - Apr 30, 2019

Ok.

Darkseid24 - Apr 30, 2019

Batman 68 was a waste, HIC 8 was ok, but nothing groundbreaking or deep character exploration. I mean how? The way the fear gas reacted made zero sense& so did Bruce’s „nightmares“. They didn’t fit his character at all. Writing characters out of character isn’t groundbreaking, it’s just bad writing.

TheAdventurer

Apr 25, 2019

Great series doesn't slack off for its big reveals.

Maker

Apr 24, 2019

Intrigued, waiting for the final

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Talon1load - Apr 24, 2019

Pretty sure that was it. The next issue is an epilogue I believe.

Comix4fever

Apr 24, 2019

Still a better story than Identity Crisis! There, I said it.

bucswin611

Apr 26, 2019

We get the answer, but to what end? King almost always has great endings to short series so I am trying to reserve judgment. But it seems like one other artist or editor involved would say "hey is this a great idea after bringing Wally back, only to make him a accidental killer and then cover-upper?" I am not angry about this series, just disappointed regarding what could have been.

Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln

Apr 26, 2019

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS Wally has his own Scarlet Twilight and I predicted it from the first issue. As expected the response is quite wild, but this issue is not entirely without merit. It does show a dark look at mental illness, and it isn't like the seeds weren't planted since Rebirth. What sucks is the execution. I feel like Wally snapping and doing it of his own free will would have been a lot heavier, instead he sees he isn't alone and loses control of the speed force, which makes it look like an accident and that he hates the idea of other people sharing similar pain. Also, instead of looking to his friends for help and explaining that he didn't mean it... he executes an overly convoluted plan that really hurts the b rain to follow, it is so comic booky and ridiculous. So, in the end you are left with a comic that seesaws between feeling like heavy commentary on mental illness and also feeling like a shock comic in the style of Death of Superman or Emerald Twilight. So, the good news thinking of it as the latter is that Emerald Twilight did not ruin Hal Jordan as a character but instead lead to a great redemption arc during his time as The Spectre and then lead into his most famous run to date. So if you are a Wally fan, remember not all hope for the character is lost. more

Darkseid24

Apr 24, 2019

SPOILER in this review: I surprisingly overall liked this issue, because it makes a lot of sense. My problem with Rebirth, when it first started was, that it concentrated way too much on the heroes, because only they seemed to remember their Pre52 life, while the villains were totally left out. It also never made sense to me, that the heroes just could live with memories of 2 lives& could deal with them. Having memories of 2 different lives would turn everyone crazy& like it or not, but most of the heroes are just humans. HIC adresses this problem. I‘m also glad Wally is the murderer & not some random D hero/ villain, because this would be really boring. He is making a confession about how & why he committed these murders. So he ju st broke at some point, because he had lost his family as a consequence of Flashpoint. So people will ask, why Wally, since murder is out of character for him? I actually don’t know, because I’m not that big fan of Wally& maybe that is one reason, why I can like the outcome. But King obviously choose Wally, because he is one of the characters, who lost everything due to Flashpoint, while Barbara Gordon for example won her legs back. However I have the feeling issue 9 will ruin everything again, that issue 8 accomplished & probably will come up with some bad excuses or maybe even a forced happy ending. We will see. What is sad, that issue 8 shows what HIC could have been, but instead of a deep plot, that explores the feelings of the characters, we got so many filler issues or characters, who were acting out of character. Especially Harley ruined the story for me. Her sudden friendship with Batgirl made no sense. Same goes for interesting storylines just being abandoned like it was never explored what consequences Lois leaks had. Maybe issue 9 will answer this, but I have my doubts. As for the dialogue, it’s typical King, but it wasn’t so bad as in the other issues. more

mrDovydas

Apr 27, 2019

I have extremely mixed feelings about this. Yes, it's a complete assassination of one of my favourite characters of all time. I hate what's happening here, and there's no justification for it. But on the other hand, I found the writing to be much better than on the previous issues, and I've quite enjoyed reading this issue, besides the fact that it also made me furious as well. As I've said, I've got very mixed feelings and I am very confused about all of this. The art has been fantastic, though.

egonnn244

Apr 24, 2019

"I lost that control" Disappointment. It's the feeling that accompanied this book from issue #3 onward for me and for many others from the very beginning. Now everything is revealed. The whos, the hows, all of it. And it is utterly disappointing. Not everything is in this issue is in Crisis though. Surprisingly, the dialogue doesn't feel very Tom King. The word "yeah" is used, I think, once maybe twice. Some of the explanations that are presented to us make sense. At least as much as anything can in this book. - Wally knowing how to set up and doctor a crime scene; - Moving people with such speed, they don't even notice; well he is supposedly the fastest of the fast; - And him losing control of speed force lighting as a reason for everyone's demise. I buy these explanations. The other ones... not so much. - Wally is a master hacker now? Capable of hacking advanced Kryptonian tech and Batman's programming? Yeah, not buying that one. - This whole five days older, future body thing - And the most convoluted and confusing. His reasoning for setting the whole thing up in the first place. Why? So you have five days to frame Booster and Harley, send World's Greatest Heroes on a wild goose chase (they could have been saving some lives instead) and kill yourself. Nope, not buying that one either. Maybe if I'd give it some more time, put my mind to it, really thought about it. But it's just that. There's no point. If the writer didn't do it, why should I? I'd rather read something better or do anything else that won't end up with me feeling utterly disappointed. more

Rick Jonez

Apr 26, 2019

Convoluted turn off.

Onomatopoeia

May 02, 2019

Ok… I get it, Wally is having a tough go of things. His family is gone and the love of his life doesn’t know who he is. That sucks and I sympathize. That does not give King an excuse to ruin Wally’s legacy. His revival was considered a “return of hope,” but what did we get instead? A bizarre explanation as to why Wally hacked Sanctuary, accidentally killed everyone and then proceeded to cover it up in the most convoluted way possible..? It reads like a pathetic D-list villain’s origin story, not the first-string Leaguer the Flash is known as. I was one of the few who really enjoyed the direction HiC was taking, humanizing gods and giving an insight to some of their biggest troubles was interesting to me. This took it way too far . There was no mystery to solve and Wally’s murder-suicide will be forever part of his character. Wally is a super hero, not the self-indulgent psychopath King is writing. You have one more issue to prove me wrong, please show me Miracle Man wasn’t a fluke. more

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Jul 22, 2023

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Dispatchdcu

Apr 24, 2019

This is issue as well as the series was so disappointing. What readers will find is an issue that explains the entire story. Sounds great right? Wrong! A comic that felt like a mystery with clues sprinkled in along the way turned into a writer withholding information for 7 issues, giving absolutely no clues, so he can drag readers along to make them THINK it’s a mystery when in all actuality King tried to make this series way to deep giving readers pointless and useless information for no good reason. This issue was so upsetting with a conclusion that appeared to be wrapped up in an issue that leaves fans scratching their head as to why he would do this to Wally West, a character that literally stood for Rebirth, and how he could ju st explain everything that happened with “the speed force”. Why did Wally need to go to the future to kill himself 5 days from now only to give himself 5 days? For what purpose? How is it that NOW, which never happened before that I can recall, Wally loses control and unleashed a speed force storm that somehow kills everyone around him? We have seen speed force storms before that looks more powerful then this and they gave super powers. An entire city given speed powers but Wally’s is more powerful and thus kills everyone. Also, Wally must be so dang fast that Harley and Booster don’t notice being pushed into positions by him? What crap is that? Wally couldn’t stand being alone, puts together all the camera footage from everyone, an gets so emotionally drained that he kills everyone accidentally.... really? This is why one of my favorite characters killed someone? And this was the best King could come up with after painting himself into a corner? This series was a waste of time. This issues sole purpose was to fix all the errors made before it in the past 7 issues to try to contact the dots. I didn’t feel for Wally at all because their was no build up, no emotion throughout each issue explaining why. And puddles? Really? That’s the explanation? Everyone knew Wally was the killer months ago and the best King could come up with was this. Thank you for ruining one of my favorite characters. Here’s to hoping an actual crisis happens to rewrite what I just read. This was another issue and another series that King tries to build himself up and tries to make his writing seem so deep and emotional by masking it with crazy characters acting nothing like themselves and pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes once again. Can King write any other way? Are we prepared for more Kite man’s, veggie trays, bare naked wrestling, and speed force explanations? I’m not because I’m done with this. Again, thank you King for ruining Wally, killing characters for no reason, and withholding information again. I gave this a 4 for art. That’s it. more

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Apr 24, 2019

So... Wally snaps and kills everyone, then decides to cover up what he did by making it seem like Harley/Booster did it, just so he could then come back and kill himself?? I mean, this is pretty fucking stupid. I'm so disappointed in this series, like really disappointed. The art was great as usual for Gerads but King just missed the mark with this event.

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Nihilist - Apr 24, 2019

I feel like not only with this event. His recent comics, in general, are unreadable to me. This, though, hurts me more, since how big and important it is for the entire DC universe. And how much it bastardizes everything and everyone it features.

myconius - Apr 24, 2019

(Dan DiDio)- "Hey Tom! i really hate that Wally West character. What can we do to shit all over him? don't worry if it's written poorly. just shit RIGHT all over him." . . . . (Tom King)- "i think i've got JUST the thing. Hold my beer."

Darkseid24 - Apr 24, 2019

Not a fan of Wally, but shouldn’t fans sympathize with him? I think it makes sense.

myconius - Apr 24, 2019

it's not true to any Wally West story i've ever read. Tom King is just tacking on his own twisted spin on the character. it's extremely forced, and a complete dump on the character.

Darkseid24 - Apr 24, 2019

I like it for questioning what Johns did in Rebirth. That annoys me, since 2-3 years. King is always forcing things on characters, but this time it at least made sense.

myconius - Apr 24, 2019

King and Johns are both bad writers as far as i'm concerned. DC Universe Rebirth read like fanfiction. Tom King comics read like the ramblings of someone who has missed several doses of their meds.

Psycamorean - Apr 24, 2019

The point where my sympathy died was when he didn't immediately give himself up. There's no reason for why he does what he does after the accident.

Darkseid24 - Apr 24, 2019

@myconius With that I can agree. @YourGreenMuse Maybe I see this too much from The side of a fan of The villains, but maybe Wally was scared to loose everything once and for all. Overall Sanctuary was a stupid idea by Batman& had nothing to do with helping people.

myconius - Apr 24, 2019

Tom King once again falling on the suicide trope. ....yup. suicide. that's always a good solution. right up there with duck tape. they can both fix any problem.

Darkseid24 - Apr 24, 2019

Isn’t it teased, that Wally is going to commit suicide?

Psycamorean - Apr 24, 2019

He did in this issue.

Nihilist - Apr 24, 2019

Which makes this event even worse. Nothing ruins a character more than a sudden 180 shift from a good guy to a full blown psychopath.

Darkseid24 - Apr 24, 2019

Wally isn’t a psychopath. He’s traumatized& couldn’t control his powers.

Nihilist - Apr 25, 2019

If he stopped there at accidentally killing everyone around him, yes. But rearranging every body, framing two innocent people for what happened, doing some time travel shenanigans to kill his future self and pretend he's dead, yeah, it's cold blooded, calculated and psychopathic to the core. He's not a victim anymore, King very suddenly turned him into a full blown evil villain.

myconius - Apr 25, 2019

i agree with Nihilist here. King turned Wally into a full blown villain. he didn't just destroy Wally's character, he totally murdered & decimated it, then took a huge steaming dump on his remains. ...all King knows how to do is ruin and destroy.

Darkseid24 - Apr 25, 2019

That still couldn’t have happened because he panicked. I disagree here.

myconius - Apr 25, 2019

ok

Psycamorean - Apr 25, 2019

I don't think people panic to that degree. Days pass, after all.

myconius - Apr 26, 2019

if Wally could travel time, i really think he'd have went backwards and tried to fix the mess. not make it worse.

Darkseid24 - Apr 26, 2019

Or mess up things even worse like Barry. I don’t trust any Flash, when it comes to time travel. Thanks again Barry for New52.

myconius - Apr 26, 2019

the new52 was Barry's fault IN the story. but i put the blame on the one who WROTE said story. (cough) Geoff Johns (cough cough)

Darkseid24 - Apr 26, 2019

I blame both& DC really seemed to have changed their plans about Doomsday Clock. King is saying in an interview, that Barry is responsible for New52, but it was supposed to be Dr. Manhatten.

Nihilist

Apr 24, 2019

Heroes in Crisis continues to be long and painful read, bastardizing everything its characters stand for, all in the name of barely coherent, incompetent deconstructionism. King tries, and fails time and time again, to do what giants like Alan Moore (Watchmen, Miracle Man) did before him, taking the concept of a good superhero fighting bad super villains, and twisting it around, giving it brutally realistic depth and switching black and white for an entire spectrum of greys. Here, in this series, however, this deconstruction was done so poorly and obnoxiously, it's hard to take it seriously even for a moment. Which is a problem, considering this piece of filth is set in the main continuity, thus can't be simply disposed, forgotten and i gnored like other edgelord trainwrecks, just to mention the recent Batman Damned. That's the biggest tragedy of Heroes in Crisis - it's awful, yes, but sadly it's in canon making things ten times worse, since you can't just turn your sight from it and forget about it. It's like DCEU in many respects, where Joker and Harley have some idiotic scribbles tattooed on their faces, for example, and seemingly nothing can be done about it, due to Warner Bros' incompetence and, I guess, franchise-suicidal tendencies. That describest Tom King's entire event as well, doesn't it? more

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Dispatchdcu - Apr 24, 2019

Said better than I

RaisingBlack

Apr 24, 2019

I am really over DC's event comics that are not what DC promises. The reveal feels convoluted and outside the character of the murderer. DC continues to get a pass on these books that are supposed to rewrite the status quo but never do. Doomsday Clock never is out in a timely manner and we have long passed the promise of the importance of Dr. Manhattan being a major part of the DC Universe. Dark Knights Metal though many enjoyed( I did not) was quickly overshadowed by the weekly Justice League relaunch. Almost every New Age of Heroes book has been cancelled. DC Black Label got bogged in controversy and DC did not stand by their product but the extremely slow release schedule of every title makes it seem like an afterthought. We are here again with this book where a fan favorite DC character is being taken in a direction that few like. Why bother? more

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Nihilist - Apr 24, 2019

True that. Still, if delays mean quality final product, I can wait for new issues of Doomsday Clock. Rushed events, like No Justice or this garbage, while on time, don't offer anything to the reader. Especially this one - it's just pure trash, and has been since #1.

waltgator93

Apr 24, 2019

Art was good but damn how this just revealed everything seems so lazy! And the reasoning is eh! Now let’s see what bad guy Wally is all about. Plus seriously why did he go in the future instead of saving everyone!

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Nihilist - Apr 24, 2019

Yeah, and notice how he snapped and turned completely 180 degrees. From being a good, exemplary and selfless hero, he turned into a cold blooded psychopath with no redeeming qualities. Very believable character development, isn't it?

waltgator93 - Apr 24, 2019

Exactly! Like he acted like he didn’t care that he killed Roy or anyone else!

Nightmare of Solomon

Apr 24, 2019

Seen people on twitter to give this series a chance, that you shouldn't judge the series based on the first few issues, that you should withhold judgment until the end -- but just like it happened with Secret Empire, initial impressions ultimately proved right... in the words of Jay Sherman: It stinks.

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myconius - Apr 26, 2019

"Please Jay." ... "Please Jay." ... "Please Jay." ... "what do YOU care?" ... "i said "PEAS" Jay. with those little pearl onions i love so well."

Spacey Medicine

May 13, 2019

I’m so grateful that this series is putting out the message that we need to hear: the mentally ill are dangerous and they will hurt you. It is only a matter of time until they snap and kill us all. Thanks Tom King!

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Darkseid24 - May 13, 2019

That’s nothing new. That’s the message DC is making with most of the villains since the 40ies. Not Kings fault.

myconius - May 14, 2019

of course it's his fault. he's the one writing this.

Big Brother

Apr 24, 2019

Wow.

Kaseladen

Apr 24, 2019

What even is this

Death's Head

Apr 24, 2019

Ruins Wally in the purest sense of the word. Art is slightly decent, and that's all.

SomeDummy

Apr 25, 2019

Why does DC hate its red headed characters? Ive been a Wally fan since Wolfman and Perez New Teen Titans, then read all of his Flash solo series when he got the mantle, well into the fantastic Mark Waid run. He was my favorite character on the Justice League tv show, which is my favorite cartoon series of all time. Grant Morrison's JLA had some of the best flash moments ever, and it was Wally. This issue would be very sad for me if I hadnt burst out laughing at how god fing awful the way the "accident" happens. Worst major series I have ever read from DC; TK and Bendis are the iceberg, and Didio is the drunk inept passed out captain. 0$ spent on comic books in 2019 so far, and it looks like it will stay that way.

CaptnAmerca

Apr 27, 2019

I'm still not sure how he went from having a tragic accident to framing two innocent people and setting then against each other. That's an Anakin Skywalker Killing Younglings leap of villainy right there.

Azrael

Apr 30, 2019

There are so many other ways this series could have drawn upon the issue of mental illness and given a pounding finale. I have no problem with who the killer is but the story is wrecked by an oversimplified story, a lazy reveal who is the killer and worst of all, a boring story that could have been made far more exciting.

gusresm

Apr 24, 2019

We were better off without the answers. Nothing makes sense. There is no emotional weight in the plot. Wally’s actions are completely out of character. Heroes in crisis isn’t just terrible it’s insulting. I can’t see how the writer of vision and mr miracle is capable of writing such giant pile of garbage.

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Nihilist - Apr 24, 2019

I'd go even further than saying we'd be better off without answers: we'd be far better without this dumpster fire of an event, which it has been since #1.

Psycamorean

Apr 24, 2019

Oh my god, this is so needlessly convoluted and stupid. Not to mention, the dialogue here is atrocious. Like Bendis on his worst days. You want to tell a story about a hero driven to the brink and lashing out? Maybe don't spend the bulk of it on a mystery that intentionally goes nowhere because that hero, that character we're supposed to feel for, also methodically set up a murder scene, framed two innocent people, and distracted the superhero community for days (or was it longer like "The Price" suggested?) just so he could admit to accidentally killing people? Also, computers don't work the way King thinks they do so that whole part about Flash finding all the data and putting it back together in an instant is shenanigans. I saw an art icle about this story and it mentioned the methodical nature of a person planning their suicide. But having read this issue, while maybe the intention was to show a superhero's version of that... or something, this is just waaay too much. If that was the intention, it just makes this series all the more shit. There's nothing here to connect with. It's too superhuman. You just get a confused and muddling trip down depression lane with a character doing things that doesn't fit. I think this series highlights most every problem with King as a writer: Decompression - This series that's been running since September, spanning 8 issues, has lasted *five* days. Dialogue - "I'm not saying I didn't do it. I did it. It was me. I'm not blaming others. For I did do it. I didn't not do it." Story Over Characters - The story compels everyone to act like they're not them. Booster and Wally are the biggest examples. "Intellectualism" - Gnarrk. Oh, and this entirely convoluted plan that I'm pretty sure everyone involved was proud of for being so smert. Am I missing anything here? more

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Nihilist - Apr 24, 2019

I mean, it's not just computers. The entire idea of reliving your worst nightmares over and over again to defeat them is completely nonsensical. The comic is irredeemably bad.

Psycamorean - Apr 24, 2019

It's not as nonsensical as you'd think. Exposure therapy, which is basically reliving the trauma, and re-contextualizing it, has been shown to be one of the most effective treatments for PTSD. Of course, this comic suggests that it doesn't work.

Psycamorean - Apr 24, 2019

This comic also likes to act like there's some universal treatment for everyone. Because the heroes were too smug or stupid to actually ask a medical professional. (Kinda like Tom King and his disregard of what he learned while consulting with doctors in favor of this story he wanted to tell.)

Talon1load - Apr 24, 2019

Exposure therapy has been shown to be one of the most effective treatments for anxiety but has been found to be only somewhat effective for PTSD. Not the same thing.

Psycamorean - Apr 24, 2019

I meant specifically Virtual reality exposure therapy, sorry.

Nihilist - Apr 24, 2019

Yeah, it works for anxiety, absolutely. But PTSD and/or depression, no way.

Psycamorean - Apr 24, 2019

Virtual reality exposure therapy has specifically shown to be effective in treating PTSD in soldiers.

ryaleus

Apr 24, 2019

I wish I could give 0 stars.Having read the entire issue and 8 issues of this dumpster fire event,I'm happy it's ending

TP

Apr 24, 2019

Perhaps this story works for the team behind it. Perhaps this is a meaningful psychotherapy for the writer and artists. I can respect that and I understand it. I give this series a low score because it doesn't work for me and it has affected negatively some of my friends. Yes, it's "just comics" but as comics can affect you in a positive way, so they can in a negative way. There's not a lot to say here. This issue was spoiled before the series started and so is #9 for those interested. I have no problem with sad stories, stories that make your heart cry. One of my favorite books is Secret Six and it's full of sad, depressing moments. And so is Clean Room. Which also has more gore and violence. But both of these books used these elements t o tell a story, they were not the story. HiC is a mystery without a mystery. And without a plot. As I wrote in my previous review it feels like the team behind it got bored right after #1. Bleeding Cool mentioned how the events of the book were supposed to be Issue #1 of Heroes In Crisis. Perhaps this could have worked. Ultimately HiC is a Tom King book and I'm not really a fan of his writing. To the people saying this is Dan DiDio and Tom is only signing the book... well ... you are wrong. Every trick and narrative technique King uses is used here and the story involves elements that King always uses in his books. One last word: love it or hate it, don't be jerks to the team behind it. more

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gusresm - Apr 24, 2019

Nice review

MKW69

Apr 24, 2019

Character Assasination 101.

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RBL - Apr 24, 2019

Expertly summed up.

RBL

Apr 24, 2019

It’s confirmed the real “crisis” of Heroes in Crisis is Tom King’s writing. I expected a poor resolution to this story as by issue #5 barely any progress was noted in the story. I was unprepared to how absolutely abysmal this book and entire event would come to be. This is absolute crap, irredeemable garbage through and through. I do not recommend anyone read much less buy any issue from this title. Wally’s character is assassinated. Through his actions he is now a scumbag. Harley Quinn is confirmed as an actual patient as Sanctuary, a recovery/rehab center for HEROES, something she is decidedly NOT and thusly HAS NOT PLACE BEING THERE. It’s nice at least Flash War’s fallout is acknowledged in a small line when ex plaining the big reveal, but it does little to salvage anything. This has to be among the worst written issues I’ve read this year and this event is just a raging trash fire. more

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Nihilist - Apr 24, 2019

Yup, Wally has been murdered in this issue. So much for Rebirth bringing back everything we love about comics, eh? As for Harley, I have no problem here. Same with Ivy. Heroes, in the end, help others, and I could absolutely see them reaching to their foes and frienemies. If they were abandoning them, or simply putting them behind bars, they wouldn't deserve to be called that. That being said, the comic is utter garbage and by no means I try to defend King's terrible writing.

RBL - Apr 24, 2019

Except if this was expressly a place where HEROES could recover and face their issues. Putting villains there would be counterproductive to the very purpose this place was built to fulfill. I understand they would want to help these people rehabilitate, but this is not the way to do this because rather than assist their rehabilitation they can hinder others. The whole angle of confidentiality might make it the least bit viable but not enough to have it make sense or warrant it.

RBL - Apr 24, 2019

*Except this was expressly a place where HEROES could recover and face their issues.

Talon1load

Apr 24, 2019

The art was fine but this story was so bad that even that couldn’t save it for me. Tom King seems to have never read anything with Wally West in it before because he knows nothing of this character and how he thinks. He also seems to not understand how computers work. He takes Rebirths symbol for hope and makes him an “accidental “ mass murderer by losing control of the speed force? Pretty sure that the last time the speed force unleashed a storm like that people got powers. Anyway, Wally then goes around and frames Harley and Booster, the guy who has saved countless lives is now framing innocent people. Wow. Then he goes into the future to kill himself? What kind of idiotic, convoluted crap is that? This whole series was garbage and the fact that it’s in continuity is a tragedy for the DCU. Avoid this at all costs. more

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Andrea D’Alò - Apr 27, 2019

The fan boys are the real cancer of this industry.

Talon1load - Apr 27, 2019

Good to know.

SnakeWilson

Apr 24, 2019

no surprises, only bad explanations btw, king doesn't know anything about wally, right?

Batmanchuria

Apr 24, 2019

Now, while there is one issue left for King to fix this mess of a story up, it doesn't change the fact that this event was a tremendous failure, from start to finish. The peak of this mess (unless King REALLY outdoes himself with issue #9) comes from this issue's complete bastardization of Wally West. I really don't know what to say in regards to this character arc, aside from it being completely out of pocket and contradictory to the foundation of what Wally's character has been built upon since his re-introduction 3 years ago; part of me is just baffled by the inane logic that led up to this point (the whole "few billion years, few seconds" thing is simply awful), and part of me isn't sure where they'll take things from here. At best, Kin g scrubs this whole thing up and reverses whatever damages occurred, at the cost of discrediting the entire story and removing any impact from it, whatsoever, and at worst we see a beloved character soiled for no good reason other than to give this pity party a little more weight. Either way, Tom King has managed to turn his Heroes in Crisis into no more than a hostage crisis for just about every character involved. more

KFuqua

Apr 24, 2019

Tom King just continues to prove that he's a horrible writer. As I've said before, DC really needs to get him off all of their major books/characters.

myconius

Apr 24, 2019

Tom King doesn't know how to create. he has no idea how to inspire. all he knows how to do is to destroy.

REYNARD

Apr 24, 2019

The only reason I bought this crap is so I can say I have the issue that ended Tom King's career. I don't care if he wrote "Mister Miracle". I don't care if he wrote "Omega Men" or "Vision". I have never been this mad about a comic since "Cry for Justice" came out. It hurts me to say that I'm still going to buy the next issue. Thanks for killing Rebirth King and DiDio!

Afre

Apr 25, 2019

A huge disappointment. For a guy who wasn't invested in this or even cared. First of all. Spoilers. So, they ruined him. Wally. I get why. He is the only one, who could fake this, who had the power and the knowledge to do how. I get that. He was a broken guy, I get that. In some way, it makes sense. If it wasn't for this huge issue that Kings has. He doesn't change the story to fit the characters. He changes the characters to tell his story. And it shows. King tries his best to tell why Wally did it. But it's still wrong, doesn't work and the revelation feels so forced. Wally didn't mean so much to me, but I'm sure he meant a lot for some readers. And this is why this is so bad. If someone wrote that Spidey did the same thing s that Wally did, I would be enraged. The art is amazing yes, but this time, it doesn't save this comic. more

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Darkseid24 - Apr 29, 2019

Agreed. While I think Wally will be redeemed, I can understand why fans of him are disappointed.

ohhaimark

Apr 27, 2019

No.

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Darkseid24 - Apr 29, 2019

I hope King finally stops killing characters off. I mean Ivy is back, so seems Wally, but what with is with the others? Ivy’s death also was just shock value, nothing more. I want great stories with the characters, not a copy of CW shows.

Soul Assassin

Apr 29, 2019

I will never buy another DC book Tom king writes, actually I’ll never buy ANY book Tom king writes. This dickhead has had way to many chances and he just fucking sucks. DC is failing terribly on screen and that has now leaked into its major comics as well, thanks to investing in Tom Kong not king cause he’s just a stupid ape with a pen. Go write kite man and fly the fuck off a building

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Darkseid24 - Apr 29, 2019

Wish I could do the same, but his Batman run is canon, so I have to check it out. I’m just hoping he doesn’t ruin more characters/ hopefully not my favorite. Some got away& I hope it stays that way.

myconius - Apr 30, 2019

Darkseid24 - i wouldn't be too concerned with DC's canon. in all the years i've been reading multiple ongoing titles of the same character, none of them ever seem to fully line up. there are always inconsistencies. plus it'll always just get retconned when the next writer takes over anyway. ...heck. even now Tomasi seems to be ignoring King's version of Batman when he writes Detective Comics. it thankfully feels like a whole other character.

Darkseid24 - Apr 30, 2019

Tomasis Detective Comics could take place before or after Kings Batman. I care a lot about contuinity& overall it makes sense. But only good writer can write in contuinity.

myconius - May 1, 2019

if only the editors at DC actually cared about continuity.

Darkseid24 - May 1, 2019

True. It’s actually not that hard.

myconius - May 1, 2019

definitely. they really have their priorities backwards.

Michaelbn

May 03, 2019

I admire and respect those who have liked this issue and series. You guys must have a serious willpower and mindset (no offense).

Wally West

Aug 15, 2019

Wally West sends his regards.