Heroes In Crisis #7

Tom King is taking his time and telling the story he wants to tell. This issue provides a lot of insight into where his story is headed. He's taking heroes that are underappreciated and putting them in the spotlight. Read Full Review

The art is also amazing from start to finish and the differing art styles blend together seamlessly. Read Full Review

Ultimately this issue serves as a bridge between what we already know and what we're all about to find out, as we see all the chess pieces moving into place for the final two issues in what looks to be a very exciting end to an interesting story that has sent shock waves through the DC Comics fandom and the DC Comics Universe. I for one can't wait to race to that final line faster than the Fastest Man Alive, which is Wally West! Read Full Review

The story presses forward, but it only adds to the pile of questions that need to be answered before this series wraps up. Read Full Review

Heroes in Crisis #7 is definitely an issue for those who started at the beginning, with a complicated, convoluted plot and series of events beginning to knit themselves into something approaching coherency. If you've come to this issue first " STOP, GO BACK to issue 1. Otherwise, admire the art because it is fantastic. Read Full Review

Heroes in Crisis #7 raises intriguing new questions and even lets a little light into this dark story. Read Full Review

Heroes in Crisis continues to be one of the most frustrating series in the DC stable, because even when I disagree massively with the direction it's taking with characters, I still have to admire the quality of storytelling. Read Full Review

Exciting and decidedly excellent! Heroes In Crisis continues to be one of the best books on shelves to date! Read Full Review

Heroes in Crisis is slowly moving towards the finish line, but with only two issues left, there's a lot riding on how the big can stick the landing. Read Full Review

There are only two issues left now, and I'm more desperate for answers than ever. Page 23 is killer! Read Full Review

Overall, this is an interesting issue with some absolutely gorgeous colors and artwork, funny moments and a lot of Wally West. However, fans looking for a definitive answer still have an issue or two to get before we get that. Read Full Review

The issue gets back to basics in some ways exploring the emotional issues these three characters have due to their heroic nature and at the same time drives the murder mystery story. If only every issue was like this, the series would stand out more than it has and possibly have avoided its ups and downs in quality and focus. Read Full Review

Heroes in Crisis #7 might have led to a frustrating reveal, but at least the story felt like it had some significant progression. King is banking a lot on the final few issues. Hopefully, he can deliver a conclusion worthy of this extended build-up. Read Full Review

As the antepenultimate issue of the series, Heroes in Crisis #7 remains an event that I appreciate more for the trees than the forest. And I'm more curious than anything to see how the end unfolds. Read Full Review

Fornes arrival is a delight. Morey works beautifully with him, Moore and Mann to deliver a visually gorgeous issue, crackling with Cowles' great lettering. Read Full Review

King and his art team start down the home stretch of Heroes in Crisis on an upbeat and weirdly inventive note, though dark lightning flickers on the horizon. Read Full Review

The new issue focuses on the mystery and the solving of that mystery, making for a much stronger issue than when King and Co. try to be all metaphysical and poetical. Read Full Review

Just another step closing in solving this crime drama. Read Full Review

Why did I agree to this? The art props up the score of this series so thoroughly, it's attractive nonsense. Read Full Review

Despite my feelings on the overall pace of this series, this book ironically feels rushed. This feeling isn't helped by the art by committee that occurs, especially given as the artists are dramatically different. The dialogue, as mentioned, feels rushed to the point of caricature which helps neither the characters nor, perhaps more importantly, the readers perception of them. With the final two issues coming up soon, I truly hope that King and Co. can rescue this book from potentially putting Readers in Crisis. Read Full Review

The series veers wildly between getting better and getting worse but at least it's almost over. Read Full Review

Once again, Heroes in Crisis leaves us to question whether this run is a complicated narrative that will be fully realized once the last chapter hits stands, or if this is just another one of Tom King's convoluted attempts at grandeur. Either way, this title is moving at a snail's pace while also moving too quickly. There are plenty of "moments" throughout this issue, but none of them feel that relevant due to their execution. Also, the "reveal" that was promised is anything but that. As much as I want to like this book, it's starting to appear as though it will be more like an event comic that bridges one status quo to another rather than serving as a strong, independent story. If that's your cup of tea, great. Personally, I'd rather have a well-written, well-thought, story" Heroes in Crisis is not that. Read Full Review

I'll admit it " this issue of Heroes in Crisis left me cold. It's not to say that Clay Mann, Travis Moore and Jorge Fornes don't acquit themselves nicely with the art, but writer Tom King's script can't help but feel a little too scattered for my tastes, particularly since he's running out of time to stick the landing on his grisly murder mystery. Read Full Review

This issue borders somewhere between okay and bad. It has its moments. I had fun with Batgirl and there are some good jokes. But I am not invested in the plot at all and even if I was, it is moving at a snail's pace. The art is good but it's not enough for me. Read Full Review

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Final Verdict: 4.5 – Let's just Flash-forward to the last issue… Read Full Review

It's not good, kids. Though there are some interesting character moments, they're outweighed by bad ones. The story is coming to an end, but it's harder to be invested with each issue. The saving grace is the art. It's truly incredible and moving. Read Full Review

If you hate superheroes, DC Comics characters, and comic books, then this series is for you. Read Full Review

If you hate superheroes, DC Comics characters, and comic books, then this series is for you. Read Full Review

I'm sure there's an audience for this book but it isn't clicking for me in any way. The art is visually pleasing but it doesn't do much in the way of storytelling or accurately delivering on what the plot is. It's painfully unfunny and very clunky. Read Full Review

As writer Tom King cements Wally West as the murderer, Im guessing we will discover more in the next issue as it's all about to hit the proverbial fan. All in all, another deep and meaningful issue and while this is not my DCU, it is an interesting spin on the familiar heroes that we all know and love. The issue was also spectacularly illustrated by Clay Mann with additional artists Travis Moore and Jorge Fornes lending their talents to this controversial series. Read Full Review

Andrea D’Alò

Mar 27, 2019

The story takes a huge step forward and it does it good, King continues to write a story about the people behind the masks but without leaving out all the superhero stuff. The art is amazing. Nothing more to say. Read it.

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Talon1load - Mar 27, 2019

Sigh, ok, I’ll bite. What huge step forward did it take?

Andrea D’Alò - Mar 27, 2019

Can I spoil?

Talon1load - Mar 28, 2019

Yep

Andrea D’Alò - Mar 28, 2019

We know more about Wally, is the still alive? “Watch my death” why?, Why he rescues Ivy? Finally our heroes, booster-blue-batgirl and Harley, teams up and have a plan. What will do Batman? He found them, what’ll happen?

Talon1load - Mar 28, 2019

We haven’t learned anything new about Wally though. The whole Booster, Harley, BB and Batgirl thing made no sense and was poorly written. The Ivy reveal was dumb. I thought the issue was more of the same waste of time that the entire event has been. At least you liked it though. A 10 doesn’t seem realistic but as long as you like it.

axdn

Mar 27, 2019

Can't wait for next issue!

I Review Comics

Mar 31, 2019

It took about 5 issues but we have finally got some story progression in this issue.  If there ever was a case to be made against decompressed storytelling in comics, Heroes in Crisis would be the sterling example. Harley Quinn, Batgirl, Booster Gold, and Blue Beetle stop fighting and resolve to find Wally West (Flash) as it seems he may not be dead after all.  While this is happening Batman and Barry Allen seek to find Wally in their own way. By the end of the issue, they get a bead on Harley and Boosters location and we get a cliffhanger that may or not be relevant in the next issue.  This issue isn't particularly great but I'm willing to give it a mulligan. With 2 issues left, I'm not sure if I'm more excited for a major revelat ion or just for the resolution to the story. The art is amazing as usual, but I feel like we've seen too many variations of the same scenes and moments. Tom King is big on repetition in his scripting to emphasize key points in his stories. It seems that this trait has now extended to the art direction.   It feels as if Harley Quinn has been beating up Booster forever now and it's getting old. We're in the end game now and the pieces are being set in place. Tom King is in the unenviable position of wrapping this story up satisfactorily. It's possible but feels like a 4-5 issue mini-series that has been stretched to 9 issues for...reasons.  Rating C+ **Addendum** 1. Heroes in Crisis 2. The Batman Who Laughs 3. Doomsday Clock All of these DC events are running concurrently and all seem to have similar problems. They all seem to be decent enough Ideas that have been stretched too thin with editorial falling asleep at the wheel.  There is definitely something happening at DC Comics with regards to overall quality and its worth keeping an eye on as its trending across the line.  more

mynameisraj

Mar 26, 2019

This Barry and Bruce don't seem like the ones in the crossover. I need more from this issue though. It was nice to see that Wally's connection to the speed force can jump-start life I'm genuinely tired of Harley, in general I mean. Pieces are coming together but this felt VERY short. I know King can stick the landing but the road has been bumpy.

Linkush

Mar 27, 2019

"DEATH, YOU'LL SEE MY DEATH" Much better than the last issue. The story actually progressed this time around and everything is starting to fall in place. However, even tho the story progressed I'm not really amazed by it and I still have my worries because the next issue is supposed to be the end for this event so I doubt the story is going to get much better. Art, as usual, except for some panels, was great.

Comix4fever

Mar 28, 2019

Still a better story than Amazons Attack.

mrDovydas

Apr 06, 2019

Yeah... this is too slow and some of the dialogues are just...painful. This will read a lot better in a collected edition, though. The ending left me a bit excited, so I'm not giving up on this.

bucswin611

Apr 06, 2019

Honestly, another disappointment. Usually I take King's minimalism as mood/ambiance, but this just rang hollow. Stupendous art, as usual.

MKW69

Mar 27, 2019

Parts with Wally were fine, but they really feel like a punch to people who thought that Wally was symbol of hope. It could work, at the beginning of Rebirth, not now.

waltgator93

Mar 27, 2019

Boy does King love the nine panels, of only he was good at it. The dialogue seems off as well as the art. Still confused on what Wally is talking about for half of his dialogue.

JordanT4021

Mar 27, 2019

I thought once the characters in this story were dead, they wouldn't be coming back? I guess being reborn is a different ballpark in that case. While I'm ecstatic that Ivy is back on the playing field, you can't help but think: what was the point of her arc? It literally served no purpose. Thank our green gods this series ends in two months. The butchery has gone on for too long.

egonnn244

Apr 01, 2019

"Yeah. Booster" It's been almost a week, barely anyone will read this, so I'll try to keep this brief. I felt like Booster after his shield broke down when I was reading this issue. #@$@ @$%# @#$$. Just where in the heck is this thing going? Art was good, except for Batman and Flash parts, it was very good. And Bats sounded here more like Reed Richards that himself. Is Batman really someone who would argue about Bat-radio being faster? I really don't think so. And I really can't take this thing with Batgirl and Harley agreeing with Booster that they are nothing. Just stop. There is a silver lining though. Poison Ivy is alive, I think. That's good. Oh, And apparently Wally also is. But he also is a crazy killer? Just look at th ose patient interviews. That man is unwell. Just two issue left. We can make it. And then wait for someone to write this out of continuity. more

Dispatchdcu

Mar 27, 2019

This 4 is for art. All art. I am lost. I have no idea who the killer really is. The characters are whacked out and comedic. Batgirl is working with Harley who I guess has never had her own story before according to King. Either has Blue Beetle, or any of them according to King. Superman is on the cover screaming and isn't in the issue at all. Maybe Gorilla Grodd will be on the next cover? This crisis has turned into a joke, literally. The main characters are joking about their misfit name. People have died and their joking. The series is 7 issues in and we know NOTHING. Two issues left to wrap this puppy up. 40ish pages to explain everything.... well really like 360 since he can over use is 9 panel grid scheme. King, ple ase take a break. Go write a novel, or a screenplay, or produce something. But please take a break from comic writing. Sometimes everyone, in any job, needs to take some time off to self reflect. Howie Roseman took some time off and the Birds won the super bowl acouple years later. That could be you!!!!!! more

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Weird Science Jim - Mar 27, 2019

I guess DC needs to hire Chip Kelly to push Tom out for a bit!

Dispatchdcu - Mar 27, 2019

It may help his pacing Jim:)

Afre

Mar 27, 2019

Like what. You know the drill, art is nice, yes. And the summary is full of crap and now, so is the cover? King really ups his game. But again, nothing happens. That's not anything new, but this time, I wasn't angry after this issue. Just confused. Why is Babs bff with Hartley now? Maybe if I reread HiC, I might remember, but I don't care enough. I'm confused, but enough to be actually mad about this. This is the first issue where the dialogue wasn't totally off for me, just okay. Wally stuff is confusing, I think King has no idea where to focus here. This feels like Wally West -story, but at the same time, it doesn't at all. I mean, this Hartley-Booster-Batgirl-Blue-Beetle -combo is not bad idea, if we start to focus on that . It's just too late. And those 9-panels don't do anything for me, at least they weren't so confusing or unnecessary as usual. This would've worked if Wally was the only one who died, and maybe Ivy as the second victim. And while Trinity is looking it the usual way, Hartley and Booster start looking in it in their own way. Again, the idea isn't bad, and while the execution is usually terrible, it's not this week. It's easy to hate HiC and I get many people's reasons why, but this week, it wasn't honestly that bad. Or maybe I don't have the will to hate this anymore. If I realize it later, I might give this a 3. Not it gets a 4, and that's because the art and that it didn't make me so angry again. more

Darkseid24

Mar 27, 2019

This comic is a mess& it's only 2 issues left& still the plot hasn't moved forward. The dialogue is awful just like always. Are editors sleeping in DC or why is such a bad dialogue getting approved? So Wally suddenly can bring people back from the dead? I don't buy it. It's good to see Ivy back, but what's the point in killing her, if she gets revived in the very same story? Harley also is terribly portrayed as the crazy, but yet empathetic character. It once again gets ignored that she enjoyed killing people. And there's no reason at all, why Batgirl should treat her as a friend. Again Harley has killed so many innocent people. No matter what timeline, she's to blame for her crimes not Joker, so it makes zero sense for Batgirl to act like that. Lois making the heroes traumas public& the consequences of that also get ignored since a while now, it's like King forgot about his own story. Wally is teased as the killer, but it's still not 100% made clear. I still doubt it. However the art is great, but deserves a way better plot. more

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myconius - Mar 27, 2019

the fact that the plot hasn't moved, really makes me wonder what the point of this event?

Darkseid24 - Mar 27, 2019

Same. It didn’t show us any traumas of the heroes either. At least not in depths.

Trev000

Apr 01, 2019

The art in this book was fantastic and that's the only reason I'm giving it a 3.5 but the script was so god-awful that I had to take additional points away. Normally I go 5 for the art and five for the writing and subtract my points from there but this script was just utter garbage. I can't for the life of me figure out why DC Comics keeps letting Tom King churn out this crap. Anyone who gives this above a 5 should not be reviewing comics, Tom King has run out of steam. The man just can't write dialogue or story anymore, I don't know what happened to the guy who wrote Sheriff, Omega Men, Grayson, and Vision, he must have died and been replaced with a watered down clone. Halfway through this book it made me want to quit reading comics, that's how bad it is. I cannot stress how awful this story is, it has no substance, nothing. How did this garbage get through editorial? All I know is that Wally better not be dead, my favorite character should not be sacrificed for this guy's crap. Also, what's up with the poetry? is he really that creatively bankrupt that he has to steal poetry from other people to fill dialogue space? The End more

gusresm

Mar 27, 2019

Overall, terrible issue. HiC probably is the worst comic Tom King has ever written: bad dialogue, terrible characterization, slow pace and plot twists that don't make sense plague the whole narrative. Every Batman and flash scene is atrocious. The art is good but the styles of the guest artists don't complement Mann style. The worst problem is, of course, the revelation of the killer. How much must Wally endure? I don't really see the point of any os this...

nec

Mar 27, 2019

I can't believe that the guy that wrote vision and mister miracle is the same guy writing HiC. This issue is terrible. The dialogue continues to be juvenile, seriously why does every character have to insert like into every sentence. Also the transition from Mann's highly detailed art to a more cartoonish style doesn't work.

CaptnAmerca

Apr 02, 2019

If the point of this series was to say that mental health issues should be swept under the rug and never spoken of again, then this has been a spectacular success.

Spacey Medicine

Apr 14, 2019

I would have rather been brutally murdered by someone I trusted.

Nihilist

Mar 27, 2019

Look at the cover - even Superman, one of the most patient, calm, down to earth, understanding and compassionate people in the multiverse, is sick of this shit. So are we, Clark, o are we. The comic, to nobody's surprise at this point, is terrible. Issues #1 and #2 may have been very negative surprises, or slaps in our faces if you prefer, but the longer this event goes, the more obvious it should be to everybody, it's an utter, irredeemable disaster. I don't even know where to begin - the story is terrible, dialogues are probably even worse, everyone acts like anyone but themselves (oh, I'm sorry, Harley has shown she has good heart - something we knew since her Paul Dini's days, but what was later bastardized with New 52)... I'm sorry , but I can't see one good quality here. Even art looks cheap at times - some panels are detailed and complex, others resemble indie series. Truth be told, Heroes in Crisis is not even worth dissecting anymore. I don't feel like I want to waste my time, braincells and breath for it. Skip this piece of filth. Shame on you, DC. more

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myconius - Mar 27, 2019

maybe after this turd of an event is finished, DC will put the focus back on Doomsday Clock and what that was supossed to do for the overall state of the DCU.

Darkseid24 - Mar 27, 2019

I think DC abandonend Doomsday Clock, since it feels more like an Elseworld& Barry is blamed again in HIC for New52.

Talon1load - Mar 27, 2019

I think HiC seems more like an Elseworld at this point.

Dispatchdcu - Mar 27, 2019

Its something else that’s for sure....

Nihilist - Mar 27, 2019

Yeah, I can't forgive DC abandoning Doomsday Clock. The comic is fantastic and should be in the limelight right now instead of this dumpster fire.

Dispatchdcu - Mar 28, 2019

Totally agree

Talon1load - Mar 28, 2019

100% agree

Darkseid24 - Mar 28, 2019

Depends. Love Doomsday Clock so far, but that doesn’t mean DC can’t mess it up. For example if a C hero like Firestorm beat Dr. Manhatten or even Superman would make no sense. I also don’t want another timeline reboot. HIC is canon, even so it doesn’t feel like that.

myconius - Mar 28, 2019

i wasn't the biggest fan of Doomsday Clock, but even i can admit it's a HECK of a lot better than HIC. ....and if he does, no matter how hard Johns might possibly flop the ending, i'm sure it's gotta be better than this mess!

Darkseid24 - Mar 28, 2019

I hope, but looking at Darkseid War, it’s not likevJohns can’t mess up badly. I hope it won’t be a Darkseid War 2.0. Don’t want to see Dr. Manhattan getting turned into a baby& yes it’s sad, that I have to point that out.

Dispatchdcu - Mar 28, 2019

There is no real beginning, middle, or probable end. I see no direction in this story and couldn’t tell you what the importance is to this crisis or the direction it puts DC. A story needs purpose and if it’s not clear, it doesn’t make you brilliant, clever, or crafty. Just tell me a story that has something to hold on too. This feels the same as Batman... ( I know I know he’s the same writer) but it’s soooooo tiring.

Talon1load - Mar 28, 2019

Dude, Johns is one of the best writers DC has. He doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. I thought Darkseid War was awesome.

Darkseid24 - Mar 28, 2019

Johns made many mistakes. He wrote the New Gods as total different characters, didn’t get their power level right& messed up 40 years of comic history. He also totally wrote Scarecrow out of character in Blackest Knight. Given the fact, that he ruined my favorite characters, which he succeeded with the New Gods, it’s a surprise I even read Doomsday Clock. Because Johns is worse than any writer for me.

Talon1load - Mar 28, 2019

It was New 52 though. Everyone was different. You’re crazy if you think John’s is the worst writer. Just don’t go to Sanctuary, that place is a real downer.

Darkseid24 - Mar 28, 2019

Not that different. Can’t remember Batmans past, power level and character being entirely changed. As bad as HIC is, it didn’t ruin a mass of characters like Johns did in Darkseid War. I’m not. He literally ruined the New Gods. Everything about them. They haven’t recovered from that. They are one of my favorite characters& it says a lot, when I say they would be better off dead right now. As a fan it’s only painful to watch what they were reduced to, thanks to Johns. New52 is still canon. It’s

Darkseid24 - Mar 28, 2019

not like everything is back to normal and all good. Rebirth = New52.

Nihilist - Mar 28, 2019

Well, I don't know. New Gods are for the most part a stand-alone entity within the DC universe. Sure, they cross over with other series every once a while, but it's hard to compare them to characters who are on the foreground. New Gods can always be taken by someone who understands them, and writes them right. It wouldn't be a big deal. Now compare that to the total shitshow New 52 was, with Amazons being turned into rapists, Harley's disgusting redesign inside and out, or bastardized Mr. Freeze

Nihilist - Mar 28, 2019

Now, with Heroes in Crisis, once more main characters are being butchered to fit King's incoherent joke of a plot. The best thing for these characters would be to completely ignore anything that's happening in this event. Just proceed and never mention it again. Like all the other utter failures DC wants to forget about.

myconius - Mar 29, 2019

@Darkseid24 aside from Batman & Green Lantern there was a ton different in the New52. Superman was a complete departure from everything pre-new52. Ma & Pa Kent were both dead, be was a loner, he wasn’t married to Lois. heck he wasn’t even dating Lois. they tried to make him mopey and angsty like in Zack Snyder’s MoS. Wonder Woman was completely different too. most notably was her now actually having a Father instead of being made from clay. and they made her origins dark and gritty as well.

myconius - Mar 29, 2019

@Darkseid24 were you saying Rebirth is not that different from New52? if that's the case then i absolutely agree. i'm really not sure why DC didn't just do a full retcon with Rebirth. not that it matters now that all the good from Rebirth is now over with anyway.

myconius - Mar 29, 2019

Nihilist - i'd forgotten that the Amazons were turned into rapists! gaddang that was so disgusting & unnecessary!! ...i definitely agree that characters are butchered just to fit King's "story". he just writes all characters the same way. depressed men, and women either bubble heads of just plain mean spirited.

Darkseid24 - Mar 29, 2019

@Nihilist. No. New Gods crossed over with the other characters quite often. Johns New52 JL / Darkseid War erased Kirby’s New Gods, New Gods Vol 3, Fourth World, New Gods Vol 4, Orion& Death of the New Gods so basically everything. He changed their entire background, their appearances, their characters, their relationships, their power level. So no that can’t be fixed with a good writer now. Neither Batman‘s nor Superman‘s past were changed. If Superman suddenly wasn’t an alien from Krypton&

Darkseid24 - Mar 29, 2019

Bruce suddenly wasn’t a rich boy, whose parents were killed& if both suddenly would be incompetent, maybe you could compare, but you can’t. Superman also was fixed. New Gods weren’t. Darkseid still hasn’t recovered from that awful Darkseid War story. Johns also turned Darkseid into a total idiot, who didnt act like himself anymore. Johns didn’t understand the Omega Beams, not the power of the New Gods. Actually he showed no knowledge at all for them. Neither did he show any respect for their

Darkseid24 - Mar 29, 2019

characters, since he turned characters like Metron or Darkseid into jokes. Both haven’t recovered& I doubt they ever will. While HIC is a crappy story it doesn’t have such a big impact on the characters like Johns stories. Batman, Superman etc. both are still acting like themselves in normal stories. Even if it messes up Wally, that’s one character, New Gods are at least 30 ruined characters by Johns.

Darkseid24 - Mar 29, 2019

@myconius Yes I did, because it’s still the same timeline& still the same character interpretations. Just some Pre52 elements were brought back.

Talon1load - Mar 29, 2019

Dude, New 52 was a different interpretation of the New Gods. I don’t even think Johns came up with them. Other than Darkseid and some others. I think most of those interpretations came up in Green Lantern after Johns left. I could be wrong on that though. Before New 52, the New Gods were completely killed and Morrison had them Darkseid inhabiting Turpin. That was way worse than New 52.

Nihilist - Mar 29, 2019

Rebirth fixed some terrible retcons. Nora is confirmed to be Victor's wife despite how Snyder ruined that completely. Wally West returned... for a while, at least. Amazons are't rapists anymore. I'm optimistic that New Gods could be saved. If there is a writer who just plain ignores what happened in New 52 and brings the glory days back. And hey, I'm supposed to be the negative one here :P

myconius - Mar 29, 2019

Nihilist - i wonder if DC will ever realize that they need to get back to good will that was started with Rebirth. ...a dark depressing version of the DCU just doesn't have the staying power to keep the company afloat.

myconius - Mar 29, 2019

i wish they'd just do a full retcon. start fresh. but this time build a hopeful universe for the heroes. not some twisted version.

Dispatchdcu - Mar 29, 2019

Johns, in your opinions, may or may not have ruined the new God’s. Honestly, I can’t chime in on that since I didn’t really follow them much. BUT, Darkseid was made a baby and Snyder had Batman carry him around in a baby carrier. THATS hard to recover from. King is ruining Batman and has been for so long now and will continue to do so for like 30 more issues!!!! Wally is dead after bringing him back for what appears to be no reason of value, booster gold is ruined, Harley is just weird,

Dispatchdcu - Mar 29, 2019

And king continues to think his writing is witty and somehow new agey. I could argue king has done more damage than any of the new 52 did, especially to a character that’s Been around for 80 years!!!

Darkseid24 - Mar 29, 2019

@Talon1load Final Crisis sucked indeed, but at least it didn’t erase the history of the characters. They still interacted with each other& yes New52 Green Lantern contributed to it, but it started with Johns Justice League Vol. 1. Darkseid‘s eyes getting cut out already didn’t make any sense, if you read Fourth World. New Gods were terribly changed there& Darkseid War continued with it. I’d rather have them dead than basically getting raped like that. Didio wanted to kill them, Morrison just did

Darkseid24 - Mar 29, 2019

The job& only the New Gods from Apokolips died after FC, Higfather, Mister Miracle etc. we’re all reborn. @ Nihilist Im not do sure about Mr. Freeze, I hope so though. As for New Gods I doubt it, since it’s been almost 3 years& it’s still terrible. JL Odyssey probably will end up bad too. Darkseid is the only New God left& he gets protected by some C heroes. Female Furies portrays male New Gods as sexist assholes. I doubt it. They are dead basically. @myconius I don’t want another reboot, they

Darkseid24 - Mar 29, 2019

should just make stories, that do the characters justice. There were stories I really loved lately, but also stories, that are terrible like HIC or Batman. @Dispatchdcu King definitely did, but I don’t put it on the same level like New Gods, because Detective Comics, the Laughing Batman etc. all portray Batman as nothing has happened, but New Gods are awfully portrayed since New52 started. And I know what I’m talking about, I’ve read all their comucs from 70 to 2019.

Darkseid24 - Mar 29, 2019

We need an edit option here *

Nihilist - Mar 29, 2019

Oh, snap, I forgot about recent Female Furies. Yeah, nevermind, all hope os gone then, if that's the status quo DC pursues.

myconius - Mar 30, 2019

when will DC wake up? ...you'd think the dropping sales forcing them to produce less titles might give them a clue.

Nihilist - Mar 30, 2019

Seeing the current state of affairs at Marvel, I doubt that. Their bestsellers are almost exclusively freshly restarted #1s, DC, for now, is still running on good reputation they've gained with Rebirth. But even that seems to be running out. Is anybody surprised by that, when all 4 main characters of DC have, at best, super mediocre comics, and the rest is utter trash?

Darkseid24 - Mar 30, 2019

@Nihilist. Yeah I’m not sure how canon Female Furies is, since it relies more on Jack Kirby’s version, but doesn’t do it justice. It’s either an Elseworld or it retells the origin of the New Gods. Same goes for Mister Miracle, what also wasn’t better. Status Quo currently is JL Odyssey, meaning all New Gods except Darkseid are dead& he’s trying to get his power back/ New Gods back. I however doubt he will be successful. JL Odyssey delivers the best portrayal of Darkseid since Death of The New

Darkseid24 - Mar 30, 2019

Gods, but it also can’t keep up with Pre52 stories. It depends on how it will end. Sales aren’t that bad for DC: The Batman Who Laughs was the best selling title, so is Batman& HIC. Quality wise I’m fine with everything Batman related.

Talon1load - Mar 30, 2019

Sales do not equal quality.

Darkseid24 - Mar 30, 2019

Sure, but it shows, that DC has no real reason to step away from King or change that much. Even with Ric. People complain, but sales aren’t that different from, when Dick was still Dick.

Talon1load - Mar 30, 2019

Sales are different though. While it’s one of their top sellers, it’s still around 20K lower than the previous writer. So, that’s a real issue. Dido doesn’t seem to have much business sense though and refuses to make corrections to his failed ideas.

Darkseid24 - Mar 30, 2019

I can’t imagine Kings stories selling lower than Snyder’s Gordon Batman story. That one was awful. However Pre52 stories were of better quality. It already became bad, when FC happened, but it turned really bad when New52 started. Even so some stories were ok.

Talon1load

Mar 27, 2019

2.5 and that's for the art. I feel like we say they same stuff every issue. Poor characterization, the plot hasn't moved, still pretty much nothing has been answered, shitty dialogue, you know, same as always for King. How he gets paid for this, I'll never understand. If you haven't already paid money for this, don't. It's just not worth it.

myconius

Mar 27, 2019

(((((((SPOILER ALERT))))))) (((((((SPOILER ALERT))))))) (((((((SPOILER ALERT))))))) (((((((SPOILER ALERT))))))) i know who the killer is!! it's Tom King. he's killed this series, and he wants to kill the DCU. the art was really nice, but what's the point if it's for trash writing?

RBL

Mar 27, 2019

I'll make this incredibly brief because this title does not deserve any thought put into it. This is garbage. Don't buy it, don't read it. My head hurts after reading it, this is so bad. There goes Wally and Batgirl, Ted Kord reduced to a bit part. Booster Gold reduced to a "living joke" and a Harley that's more annoying than ever. This should just end. The real "Crisis" of Heroes in Crisis is the writing.

Psycamorean

Mar 28, 2019

Well, I'm just done. The execution here is so bad. I hate it. Kill me.

TP

Mar 27, 2019

It feels a bit like Tom King does not like HiC. Like he got bored/tired of it after #2. I don't want to spoil anything here but the dialogue is becoming even more inconsistent and there are huge gaps in characterization. Perhaps this is all an A.I simulation and the inconsistency are the glitches (but probably not since King was asked and this is not the case here). As for the twist or twists... everything was spoiled months ago. Now. Who spoiled the whole plot? There is no way this wasn't leaked from someone at DC, perhaps someone (editors? other writers?) who disagreed with it. Was the leaked Ivy cover an inside job too? The book gets a 3 because after months, the plot moves forward just a tiny bit. Tom King is a good writer. He can do better than this. He knows he can do better than this. There are 2 ways to face a story 1) Ignore the problems and praise it because you like the writer 2) Be honest My coverage of this book has always been honest despite "plot twists" Edit: My score is now 1 because of the King fanboys reaction and responses. Enjoy more

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ExMachina - Mar 27, 2019

The opening statement sums up my feelings. It's like when you start a project and you fuck up somewhere but can't start over. So you just half-ass the work until it's finished. Maybe, just maybe issue no. 9 will be off the charts. Though that's just wishful thinking.

Superheroes for Hire - Mar 27, 2019

I'm not reading this series, but I did read some preview pages. I see King couldn't help himself and inserted yet more poetry. Only to have Wally give meta commentary about how he really doesn't get poetry but is only spouting stuff he thought sounded cool and that Gnark explained to him.... Oh Tom King, I can see you literally despise your readers and the medium.

Talon1load - Mar 27, 2019

I was right there with you until you said King was a good writer. I’ve yet to see any evidence of that. But I agree that this series blows.

RBL - Mar 28, 2019

To be fair, the only improvement I’ve seen in the title was from Issue #1 (1/10) to Issue #2 which was an improvement. That said, anything is an improvement when the bar was set so low. It has remained mediocre since.

ryaleus

Mar 27, 2019

It sucked.

Batmanchuria

Mar 28, 2019

The biggest problem that I see from this book as that it may not even have any significant impact on the main continuity of this universe (whereas most events do). Rather, it might just result in one or two characters getting spin-off material, and maybe a follow up title from King, which would, in turn, reveal this series to be one great big vehicle for yet another unremarkable book (not unlike Metal, which turned out to be a glorified prelude to Justice League). Furthermore, these issues, month after month, continue to sully both its own title and the credibility of Tom King, from the baffling ineptitude of some characters to the downright deplorable indifference of others, to the point where they're no longer polarizing, but straight-up horrible. Ultimately, this book will most likely end with a terrible conclusion to match up with the rest of it, and the hatred and controversy that it has amassed will be the only thing saving it from obscurity down the line. And seriously, how is it that this book receives top-priority by DC, yet they treat Doomsday Clock like an afterthought? more

ohhaimark

Mar 29, 2019

THE GOOD: -Under normal circumstances, I would be excited to see some kind of reveal about Wally, but considering it took seven issue to get there, no, I'm not going to consider that good. THE BAD: -I used to like this series, love it even, but it's gone from masterpiece to tragedy for me at least. Maybe it never was a masterpiece. -This is inexcusable. Has Tom King stopped trying? This issue seemed to prove so. -The dialogue was B-A-D bad. Like bad bad. Really really bad. I cannot express how bad this dialogue is. Hey! That kinda sounded like a piece of dialogue from a Tom King comic! -Wally's therapy sessions were just... No. No no no no no no no no. No. -The art was sloppy. I mean, hell, what'd you expect, it's t hree different artists, and it all feels so rushed. So much for the one good thing about this comic. -I mean, can you even call this a comic? It feels more like a cash-grab at best. I kinda feel sad that so many trees got chopped down for this shit. -Barry and Batman's scenes made me want to kill myself. -The humor this issue was awful. No joke. Like literally, no joke in this comic works. -It's been awhile since a comic actually made me mad. Well... not so long. It happened with the Road Runner Batman issue that I burned last night... I mean what? I definitely didn't do anything of the sort... (insert nervous laugh here). -AAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!* *Enraged comic book fan for "[Censored, because this amount of profanity should never be seen on the internet] more

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myconius - Mar 30, 2019

ohhaimark - this was by far your most passionate review yet! .... i LOVE it!!! :D

ohhaimark - Mar 30, 2019

@myconius- Thanks! :) I was really quite mad I spent actually money on this piece of crap.

Darkseid24 - Mar 30, 2019

I‘m glad again, that I just borrowed it from a friend lol

myconius - Mar 30, 2019

you're very welcome. :) . . . yeah. i've been feeling the same way more and more. i still enjoy collecting comics, but these companies just don't deliver.

Darkseid24 - Mar 30, 2019

Same

myconius - Apr 1, 2019

so what do we have, just two more issues left of this?

ohhaimark - Apr 1, 2019

Yep. Two more issues to get … some kind of answers. Can the finale even possibly be satisfactory, given all the stalling, and issues with no plot progression whatsoever?

myconius - Apr 1, 2019

watch it leaves off with some kind of open ending that'll lead into a new series.

Darkseid24 - Apr 1, 2019

I finish reading it, because now I want to know. I reread some early King Batman stories& back then the dialogue wasn’t so bad. What happened?

myconius - Apr 1, 2019

yeah. it's just morbid curiosity now. ...like watching a trainwreck. you don't want to watch, but you just can't look away.

Darkseid24 - Apr 1, 2019

Agreed, but his City of Bane sounds quite cool. At least the first cover is. But it all depends on how he writes it. Maybe he wants a Knightfall 2.0., but I hope he writes the villains better than in Jokes& Riddles.

myconius - Apr 1, 2019

watch! it'll be like the wedding all over again. Bane will be all ready to "break the Bat", then at the last minute, he'll get cold feet, then leap off a rooftop.

Darkseid24 - Apr 1, 2019

I hope not. I hope, if the villains are included they get a worthy part. Similar like to the real Knightfall.

myconius - Apr 1, 2019

with Tom King i always expect something ridiculous. ....watch it wont even really be Bane. it'll really be Kite-Man in disguise. and when they pull his mask off, he'll say "beep. beep."

Darkseid24 - Apr 2, 2019

I hope not lol

myconius - Apr 10, 2019

just you watch! ...... "BEEP. BEEP."

Wally West

Aug 15, 2019

Wally West sends his regards.