Amazing Spider-Man #25

With only one chapter remaining in this pivotal story, Amazing Spider-Man #25 does an excellent job of reframing the story and making it clear why these characters can never go home again. Read Full Review

Amazing Spider-Man #25 tells Mary Jane's side of the story after she was separated from Peter on an alternate Earth. Presented almost entirely as a montage-filled flashback, the bits of information we get only clarify what we already know. If you're looking to be shocked and awed, you'll have to wait until the next issue. Read Full Review

It's not a bad issue, but it does have some major flaws. I just wish it could have stuck the landing. Read Full Review

Break out the tissues if you're a fan of Mary Jane and Peter Parker being together, as Amazing Spider-Man #25 makes it abundantly clear they're finished with each other, at least for now. This issue does the work to show how people can grow apart with distance and time between them, but it also handles certain elements in a clunky way. The villain is not very interesting and acts like a cliched villain who is evil simply because, making the story feel trite and boring. The adopted children are also half-baked. Still, if we're going to embark on a new era for Spider-Man, this is a good place to start if you're interested in something new and bold. Read Full Review

Andrews and Romita Jr deliver lively and impressive art in a story that otherwise would have been unreadable without it. Read Full Review

The Amazing Spider-Man#25isn't offensive because of its story decisions, but because of how plain and boring it is. The Spidey team has nothing to say with this story, leaving it as just a poorly paced history lesson to explain why the team wanted to circumvent the previous status quo to tell the same old stories we've been seeing for years. Read Full Review

Hex

Oct 10, 2023

This was really, really good. I don't know what people are smoking. The art is top notch. Some of the best this entire run has seen. To start off, Mary Jane didn't betray or cuck Peter. We don't even know by the end of this whether or not MJ and Paul are "together". They bonded. Over 4 years. Fighting and surviving and raising children. It's all justified. I'm not saying that MJ should just bang whatever guy falls into her lap after Peter but despite Peter's persistence in trying to get back to her, he can't slow time. She understandably thought she was stuck. But that doesn't mean even at the end that she doesn't still love Peter. The best part about this issue isn't even the explanation (for the most part) about MJ and Paul's relationshi p. As far as I'm concerned it's just a bond. It happens and while not meaningless, it doesn't mean it's romantic. Even if it was, I wouldn't be pissed. The best part is seeing MJ be a badass, seeing Paul actually do something and contribute to the story instead of being just some dude that everyone hates because he's encroaching on their Spider-Man fantasy of plowing Mary Jane. They actually made Rabin seem like a threat. He was daunting and intimidating. The scene with Owen was pretty chilling. And hey we get an explanation for MJ's "powers". I think it's kind of goofy but it's better than random chance powers so cool I guess. All I have learned after reading this and looking at reviews is that people aren't media literate. They take a headline, a blurb, a single panel and don't look past that or their own idea of what they want the character to do. This is the best issue in a while and thought it may still be dealing with an arc and villains I don't have one iota of interest in, it made me actually care about the future. What will happen with Paul, MJ, and Peter? That is what is driving my interest now. How does Peter reconcile with the people who are effectively leaving him to deal with his anger and pain on his own? The story at the end was also hilarious. I love how much Peter hates being outside of New York and the two panels he's swinging between buildings until he can't is amazing. Actually had me laughing. More Peter and Felicia please! more

Toonstrack

May 10, 2023

Interesting issue. A lot of theories were out to rest and a lot of new ones were raised. We were shown cherry picked scenes that sell a narrative but not the only narrative and the very presence of the kids makes it obvious this story has more reveals to it than we think.. I will confess I read the scene at the bed as him being castrated or something, but again, it is deliberately vague as to not give things away. They seem to be trying to say they have not actually consumated a relationship, but also that they have to stay together because they both know something. I understood everything Peter did here; basicslly. I liked that sur was the one to break things up. I totally get why he's so piszed off in this run now. He just got a raw deal snd its not really anyone's fault. MJ would likely not have survived that portal fall and spidey would've been lost if she'd gone instead of him and she likely wouldn't have been able to get him back. I really liked seeing MJ become a badsss post apocalyptic fighter for a bit. I feel like they are really working towards her becoming a full on hero at some point. The stuff with all the symbols was again; retry vague but explained the jackpot thing. I font hate the concept but ill need to see more. Decent issue that answered a lot of the questions we've had in a pretty roundabout way. Like I said, I totally get Peter's heads space in the earlier issues now and I also get why he'd look for comfort in Felicia. I found niether MJ nor Peter to be unlikable, just good people in a difficult situation. As others are saying. This is mostly just decent. I thought the early arcs were better than this one but this one has been necessary to get the full picture for the prior arcs. It all makes a little more sense now and I appreciate that. more

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VicSav - May 15, 2023

This was garbage, marvel sucks

Toonstrack - May 15, 2023

Disagreed on both counts. It wasn't amazing but it wasn't bad.

Psycamorean

May 17, 2023

I think most of what I wanted to say about the state of things regarding ASM, I said with the last issue review. I'll just give some general scattershot thoughts about this one: Firstly, the art by Kaare Andrews is great. I'm glad to see that they will be involved with future issues. When Romita comes back at the end, it's not bad but I was more distracted by the reuse of multiple pages from issue 24. I don't think that was necessary at all, one or two would've been fine to get the point across that this is where everything converges. It's like they were short a few pages and just added more from 24 to fill the gap. Not a fan of that. Secondly, the story: Nothing here is that surprising. I think the kids being a Rabin plot rather than t rue blue children was very cathartic to read for me. Just so the misogynists could shut the fuck up about MJ being a horrible, unfaithful slut. That, coupled with the insinuation that Paul is impotent really makes me think that Marvel is doing their damnedest to make it clear to readers that MJ and Paul don't fuck, which brings me to a theory I've had about comic book relationships. It's not so much a theory as a statement of fact: Comic book romances are very simplistic, and the almighty orgasm determines all. Think of it as though all of comic fandom is in a room and there's a bedding ceremony taking place in front of all of us. It's as archaic and repulsive as that. Since sex in comics became a thing that we could allude to, it has been the key to defining relationships in comics, especially superhero comics. It's not real till the characters come together. Relationships in comics are almost purely about the physical, not only because that's way easier to write, but it's also way easier to sell. Do I really want an issue of my cape of choice sitting down for a nice meal with their romance of the issue, or do I want 17 pages of action, and then five more pages of *action*? I'll leave it rhetorical, but we all know which brings in more numbers. And I truly do think it's been beaten into us fans to use sex as a way to identify whether a relationship is truly valid or not. Which is why, despite 20 something issues of Paul and MJ with kids being a thing, it was not until we knew (or thought we knew) the exact details that all this misogyny about MJ's "betrayal" of Spidey came pouring out. Also, the backup is really cute. Rainbow Rowell does cute slice of life comics really well. Check out She-Hulk. Or... don't, most of the people reading this would probably be real toxic about that book. JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/xJz6buvNFZ MY PHYSICAL COLLECTION (FOR SHOWING OFF): https://psycamorean.libib.com/ more

Screaming Enigma

Jun 01, 2023

Another case of people going insane over the fact that Peter and Mary Jane aren't together. While the villain here isn't that interesting to me, the rest of this book is cool. Seeing Mary Jane and Paul's time together as nice, which is something I probably think because I don't immediately hate Paul. MJ spent like four years in this dimension unsure of whether or not she would ever return home again, so it's completely understandable that the two of them got together, especially after they found the two kids and took them in. As for everything after we're caught up to speed, I think it was done well. Peter's confrontation with the Fantastic Four and Captain America shows how sour of a note things were left on before Issue 1 of this run, and it was just good writing, in my opinion. Along with all of that, I didn't even realize there was a backup story in this issue until I got to the end of the main story. Rainbow Rowell's backup is very much a random, slice of life story, but that's something she's proven to excel at with her She-Hulk run. As I've stated in previous reviews, I like the pairing of Peter and Felicia and I hope it's something that stays for a while. This issue gets an extra 0.5 just for the nice backup. All in all, don't listen to the people trashing this book into oblivion. more

CrazyforRAMU

Jul 29, 2024

Let me lead with an observation I'm surprised hasn't been posted here yet: This premise turns out to be a retread of the Dimension Z monkeywrench Remender threw into his Captain America run. It's faster and shallower, and being imitative makes it even more disappointing. The final revelations are utterly predictable, but I rather like the storytelling. The extra length gives an appropriate weight to MJ's long exile. I think Kaare Andrews did a formidable job on the art. There's a distinct effort made to align with JRJR (mainly in character proportions), but also an impressive amount of stylistic variation to emphasize the passage of time. The explanation for MJ's kids is cowardly, but again, predictable if you're enough of a cynic (an d I usually am). Zeb Wells painted himself into a corner, and this choice might be the least-bad of the all-bad options. Those kids' days are numbered, so it's for the best that they're adopted. (At least I hope those kids' days are numbered; I'd hate to see them sticking around like Ian Rogers.) The backup strip is a nice little pick-me-up. Trust Rainbow Rowell to take an old joke ("How does Spidey get around in the suburbs?") and breathe life into it with smart details. It's sentimental and lightweight, but not unpleasant--like a well-executed souffle. I thought Álvaro López did some daring stuff with the art, too, swinging big at situations you don't normally see Spider-Man (or Felicia Hardy) put in. more

DDJamesB

May 10, 2023

I surprisingly like the reason why Mary Jane had moved on. I just don't understand why it's needed and I could care less about the villain.

Mout

May 11, 2023

I believe none of y'all that have been complaining have read the issues when they were married, so stop fucking complaining like it's the end of the world, is isn't.

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DeathStroke7505 - May 11, 2023

You'd lose that bet....

TSMack

May 13, 2023

I liked Rainbow Rowell's tribute to Omaha in the backup story, since I used to live there.

sawright20

May 10, 2023

This is a step up from the previous issue, and we get some answers to questions we’ve been asking for a while. Some great art from Andrews and Romita Jr., and Peter’s actions feel more appropriate and I was able to sympathize with him this time. The emotion worked for me, and I don’t hate Paul like a lot of people seem to. Still, Rabin is pretty uninteresting, and the whole symbols thing didn’t really work for me. This also has an extra story to celebrate 25 issues of this run, but a celebration does not feel earned at all.

Afre

May 10, 2023

I must admit, I don't see the hate for this issue. Another "passable" one, that you can read. I didn't really feel anything for this issue. This 6-part storyline has felt very messy, oddly paced, but I hoped it would get better. Now it's just... meh. There isn't anything really here for me to grab. Art was fine I suppose. MJ's backstory was... fine I suppose? Some twist with the kids, but otherwise the plot is very straight-forward and doesn't have any twists or interesting stuff to talk about. Biggest problem here is the lack of good writing for the Scribbled Man Rabin. He was much more enjoyable and memorable in his BND appearance than he is now. I don't feel anything when I see him, he is not threatening, or particularly interestin g. I just want him gone. I can't wait for this storyline to be done. This past year of ASM has been very messy because of it, and I just wanna move on. I think Wells wants too. If this is all this entire storyline will offer, it feel like a massive fake-out. A year worth of messy storytelling is not justified by this lackluster straigth-forward story with a forgettable villain. I sincerely hope I am wrong about this, since I still somewhat believe in Wells and want this run to succeed. more

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Psycamorean - May 10, 2023

Even though I definitely like this run more than you, I gotta say your reviews are refreshing compared to the Outrage Brigade who insist that each issue is the worst they've ever read.

Afre - May 10, 2023 (edited)

I'm glad you can enjoy this series more than I can. And thank you fo the comment! This series has it's moments, and I can't wait for Wells to bring more of his own vision besides this. As for the Outrage Brigade, I just don't understand them. Interacting this series immediately after it's out and screaming "how bad it is" doesn't really have the effect they might think it has. If I hated this so much, I would've just stopped reading entirely.

Afre - May 10, 2023

Feels like many members of the Outrage Brigade says "ignore this this trash and don't buy it or read it, let it be forgotten! Vote with your wallets!" every time a new issue is released and I just wonder are they trolling or that tense. But maybe I'm just a dumb-dumb who sometimes enjoys this "trash". Who knows.

Afre - May 10, 2023

It's totally fine to be disappointed with this series, it has problems, but to just say that's it's the worst thing ever just feels wrong to me.

jbong

May 11, 2023

...the second story was actually pretty funny. I did like it quite a bit but we're all here to trash the main story! The lengths Marvel will go to...to...keep PP from MJ? OK, whatever. But Peter behaving like a complete man baby and needing to punch other superheroes even *after* MJ is safe? This is just frustrating silliness from the editorial team. Apparently, having Peter act a little adult is also a big no. I believe there is still a lot of storytelling potential for Spider-Man, but Marvel insists that we the readers do not deserve better, and also they need to remind us that things cannot get better by giving us this crap. IDK why I still read this...

daspidaboy

May 10, 2023

in all complete brutal honesty, its not bad. but its not good either. This comic book is just plain old okay. art was inconsistent, and I do like how we see Mary Jane and Paul grow closer together. Kaare Andrews is a great artist, I wish that person was doing the run. I get why Peter Parker is lashing out, but it still doesnt change the fact that Fantastic Four was the one acting out of character to Peter Parker in the first place. It's honestly very sad that I'm only excited for this book not because of Spider-Man and the "writing" but because it's funny seeing the huge backlash the fans have. This isnt how you should market or write a comic run. You should make people anticipate the next issue because of the good story. Not because the fans will get pissed. more

KittyNone

May 10, 2023

This could have been an OK issue if I cared even a little bit about Paul and Rabin, but they're both really just ciphers to make the plot go where it needs to, and the plot isn't interesting or meaningful enough to bear the weight alone. It's not a bad explanation of where MJ's new family came from, but it's not a terribly involving one either

wakizashireviews

May 10, 2023

Since when was issue #25 of any series a "Landmark issue?" Soon Marvel will be celebrating issue #5. It isn't terrible but it isn't very good either. A very average 5 out of 10 and that's mostly for the art. Nothing much happens in this hyped-up and oversized issue. We learn where the kids came from. And that's about all. Disappointing. I enjoyed the art, especially Kaare Andrews's pages. He draws the first part of the story which is set in the alternate New York where MJ is trapped with Paul. Andrews's art is refreshing. It's vibrant and suits the story well. He draws MJ looking like a shapely woman, obviously remembering that she is a supermodel. Some artists seem to have forgotten this. John Romita Jr. does the art for the seco nd part of the main story from when Peter reappears through the portal to rescue Mary Jane. It's a bit jarring after getting used to Kaare Andrews's style, but to be fair to Romita Jr., he draws a decent Fantastic Four and Captain America. I was surprised to see Marvel reuse some of Romita Jr.'s art from a couple of the earlier issues. I counted 4 or 5 pages of recycled art! It's been made very clear that editorial want Peter to remain single. I understand the backlash to this by a lot of Spidey fans. What I don't undersand is why ASM is the top-selling monthly comic book, if you can believe the "figures." It has knocked Batman off the top spot. Bizarre. more

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Hex - May 12, 2023

Romita JR. is so disappointing. I'm really tired of them or him recycling his better work from 20+ years ago.

wakizashireviews - May 13, 2023

@Hex I think this comic needs a new and regular artist. JRJr must be fast, that's why they keep him on the comic. The 2 books per month is a big problem!

banditobane - May 14, 2023 (edited)

Grey I didn't know you reviewed here too. :) But this issue is just painful to read the art is great but the story is just garbage. I understand the deconstruction of a hero but this seems like total demolition. It make me dread the next issue.

wakizashireviews - May 14, 2023

@banditobane Yes, I drop a couple of reviews when I have time. The only problem with this site is the users who have multiple accounts just to review bomb certain writers. They never write any reviews, just throw out 1s or 10s for writers they seem to either love or hate.

BirdmanG07

May 10, 2023

My problem with this issue, and this entire run, hasn’t been the separation of MJ and Peter, it’s the circumstances around it. The status quo prior to this was completely disregarded and we just jumped into these new events. This seems more to me like Marvel wanting to sell books out of shock value and Wells wanting to force Felicia/Peter rather than telling a good story. MJ, one of the most well known characters in Marvel, was paired up with a random guy we’ve never heard of. Even after this it seems more from circumstance and going through a terrible 4 years than growing together. It’s disrespectful to MJ. I saw another review that said if Paul/MJ have a trauma based relationship, by that logic Peter/MJ should’ve been marrie d with 12 kids from what they went though. I admittedly wanted MJ/Peter but I’m open to it not working out if it’s done right. I do think this could’ve been a good interesting story, but again it feels more rushed and forced than anything. Plus nothing here was a surprise, we all saw this coming. The only surprise was the kids weren’t birthed from MJ. I’ve liked past work by Wells, I was excited to have him in the book and was hoping #25 would change my opinion but it hasn’t. I am hoping 26 makes it worth it but if they just kill off MJ, I don’t know how they got this story approved. It was teased in this with the “if you get 3 skulls” and I feel like we’re about to see that next issue. more

Kalaoui

May 11, 2023

It's a very lackluster story where all the beats are recycled from the time gap where the hero can't save the heroine and grew apart and blah blah and then add a very mediocre villain acting like a 50s idea of what a cliched bad guy would be. There is nothing here that inspires or infuses a hint of suspense of hope in building proper characters. A year wasted on the dumbest premise. Zeb Wells and the editors dropped the ball just like on Spencer's run. I don't have hope for ASM ever recovering and this title will continue to sell and top the charts riding on the 60 year old history of cool Thwips and slogans "With great power..." that are both celebrated yet are the main hinderance to its advancement. I will finish the arc then it's sayonar a and I'm moving to trades because at least then I will have full arcs to pick and choose from. more

fzanca

May 14, 2023

I'm not sure what this was supposed to be. Though I collected MJ and Black Cat, I was never on board with MJ's powers. The explanation here doesn't make it any better. It actually makes it more stupid and unbelievable. I understand what everyone has been saying about this run and I agree completely, the writer is taking too many liberties with the source material and not giving the readers anything to hold on to. Let's see what happens next issue. The variant cover was nice.

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May 11, 2023

I can give two things to this issue. It has nice art and the backup story was cute. But the main story is poorly paced and jumps around a lot, I couldn't care less about Paul, the kids and that villain whose name I have already forgotten. There is no chemistry between MJ and Paul. Forcing her into a relationship with a plank of wood just to get a reaction from angry fanboys feels very insulting to her character. This arc was nothing more than outrage bait which is creatively bankrupt. I think even Wells doesn't want to write it because the story is so bare bones and thin, it's barely a proper arc.

banditobane

May 14, 2023

I always wondered why she dumped Peter for Paul, and it was because he was LITERALLY THE LAST MAN ON EARTH! Though I think even though she still truly loves Peter, l think that she is staying with him more out necessity than love do to those kids. Plus, I don't think she told him the whole truth in order to protect him. Maybe this is all an act as they have never been seen kissing throughout the whole run so far. Only hugging, calling each other cute names and hugging. But we'll learn more about that next issue. But still this book leaves more questions then answers, I hate this Mystery Box style of writing that Zeb Well has adapted. Say what you want about the Nick Spencer Run, he actually dropped hint on who the BBEG like in manga. But he r we didn't know about the Emissary, the Gods or the Ceremony until #22. And we hardly know anything about Paul after 25 issues. (Only that I want to punch that smug SOB in the face every time I see him.) I swear Zeb Wells just created him to piss off the fans. more

Frank61

May 15, 2023

I've defended this run so I thought I'd better give my opinion on this 'most important story'... I thought it was average at best with the art bringing up the score to that. Disappointing! Marvel, as I keep preaching, have a problem and one that is getting worse. The 'Charlie Brown approach' is not working(!!) and does not work for Marvel characters. You can't ignore time and certain events and stories - that have actually occurred in the comics - and then hope that new events and situations are taken seriously. I won't bore you but Marvel needs to 'reset'. I have suggested to them how this could be done without negating 50 years of continuity but would the readers accept that - for example - issue 181 of The Hulk isn't 181 of The Hulk? more

ChileanYoda

May 10, 2023

Art is dope. History is simply awful.

superstan52

May 11, 2023

No one seems to have noticed when Paul is in the hospital they cant find any record of him existing. Certainly a big hint pPaul will be gone imminently.

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MexiCayde-6 - May 11, 2023

For real? I must have missed that, when did that happen?

DeathStroke7505

May 09, 2023

Ok, I admit, not as bad as I thought. Art's fine, action was ok, pacing was decent. Not the best anniversary issue (far far cry from ASM 500), not the worst. Still no where near where I think the book needs to be. MJ having powers seems off, MJ forsaking Peter is what kills it all for me. The time dilation is inconsistent with the time that passed while Peter was gone from new york. Further, its a stupid and lazy plot device to do what Marvel wants to do and keep Peter and MJ seperate. Its a slap in fan's face. The next issue will determine whether I continue with the series or not. The obvious implication is MJ's death, but that may be a red herring like the kids....but I don't have high hopes. Either way, till they put MJ and Peter b ack together, I'm not holding my breath that this run will get better. They can't even cut Peter slack enough to give him a good night with Felicia. No one likes when a hero NEVER has a hard time or has zero flaws. But then there's this, where the hero can't EVER catch a break. I can't stand to see Peter drug through the mud with no end. Its wearing. more

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May 10, 2023

Summary: MJ never fucks Paul — they find their kids in Dimension Goofy and adopt them. Then Spidey rescues them but MJ leaves him cuz too much time went by. And the FF and Cap are still pissed at Spidey for stealing the shit he used to rescue MJ. Lol Imagine pitching this to an editor and getting the gig to write Spider-Man.

Mr Malone

May 10, 2023

Sad to see what's happening to this character. Controversial series for the dumbest reasons.

Prodigalson16

May 10, 2023

Boy do I just love being trolled.

ItsJess

May 10, 2023

This is like reading an NTR doujin without the smut. Also a reminder that Bruno Mael, Spin-0-sa, AmbrosE, and AllWallace are the same person.

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wakizashireviews - May 10, 2023

Made even more obvious by them removing the option to comment on their "reviews". LOL I think they got sick of me leaving sarcastic comments.

ItsJess - May 10, 2023 (edited)

@Wakizashi Gray Dude has like 9 accounts

Tiki

May 10, 2023

Stop ruining MJ’s character it’s not that hard to do better 🤦‍♂️

Halodystroyer44

May 11, 2023

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Goblin22

May 10, 2023

Worst Spider-Man Run Ever. It would have been better to have stayed with Nick Spencer.

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Sollywoods - May 10, 2023

I agree. I suffered through OMD, Past Sins and a few other dull runs but this is the worst representation of the characters. At least Slott is back writing Spiderman on the other series so there's a decent ongoing Spiderman still out there.

Web-Head

May 10, 2023

One of the most misogynistic comics in recent years, the writers literally destroy one of the main female characters in the history of spiderman to push forward his relationship with another woman, the terrible attitude towards characters with such a rich history, it's just disgusting,the only thing that can be praised is the work of artists,the drawing is very good

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MexiCayde-6 - May 11, 2023

I pointed this out in my review but it bares repeating, a character actually refers to MJ as a "Scarlet Woman". Which is a fancy historical was of saying a slut or a prostitute. They want fans to hate her as much as they do.

Federico Liguori

May 10, 2023

It's happened, in the end. Zeb Wells managed to completely throw me off my favourite superhero's comic book. It's not even right to rate this thing, as misconceived as it is. This is not a story: this is just a rage bait for the fans so they'll talk about it and Marvel gets free promotion. Nothing makes sense, everything just goes the way this pathetic writer chose to because he thinks he's so smart he can piss on beloved characters and do whatever the hell he wants. I don't even know if I'll keep reading it. This looks just like the kind of garbage that will be retconned in a couple of years.

samizrozami

May 11, 2023

Marvel is trolling all of us

MexiCayde-6

May 11, 2023

I genuinely cannot fathom the level of awful decisions made for the whole of Zeb Wells' ASM run. This entire series of events can only exist if the characters are written entirely different from how they are characterized. MJ, even after years alone with someone else, would not give up on Peter. Peter may be emotional but he is still a genius, he wouldn't attack his friends and risk his best chance to save his should-be wife, just because they need to verify his identity. He definitely wouldn't work with the man that killed his first love just because he says "I'm not evil anymore I swear". 10,000 characters is both not enough and too much to write a review because I could say so much more about it and how much I genuinely hate every little inconsistency. But nobody would read that much. So I'll leave it with this. Marvel has been preaching about the evils of things like misogyny, yet at the first chance they get they will take a strong female character that fans love and they will do everything in their power to ruin them, and to make fans hate them. That's what is happening with MJ, they hate her, and hate that fans love her so much that they will have a character in the story refer to her as "The Scarlet Woman". A scarlet woman for those who don't know is a historical derogatory term for a prostitute, or a woman that has sex with a lot of men. The equivalent of this term in the modern day is a 'slut'. more

ThiagoRos9

May 11, 2023

I hate how today's Marvel thinks of spider-man. Online coming back when the corrent editorial is out

ResearchReader

May 18, 2023

No. And I mean regardless of if you like the direction or not, this just felt like a Zeb further pumps up his self insert Paul. The Spider-team want to make sure you know they don't care about this book or Peter. The writing is weak, the art is sloppy and if I produced work of this quality I would have been fired long ago. I feel like at this point, I have lost all my anger at this run and just apathy now. I just dont care. They want to write Peter as a miserable person who will only be harmed? Sure. Ok. You do you.

Criminology.

May 18, 2023

I don't know how to feel about this issue and I think that's how I am supposed to feel. It feels like the end. That's the moment we as a fandom should most definitely move on and leave what once was, what once was great in the past. Pete tried everything and gave his all, but sometimes destiny wins. I feel like that reflects the fandom and in a way, the whole issue is structured to put you in Pete's mind space and the way he feels. It's sad in the way autumn is sad, It's natural, it's silent, you can't escape it, and it's cold and moving slowly, but seemingly tirelessly. It's a feeling that haunts the whole issue. Weirdly enough it captures what a real breakup actually is.

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Psycamorean - May 19, 2023

This is a nice sentiment. As much as everyone hates that Pete and MJ aren't together, nor do they like how that came about, the actual emotions from the characters feel real, especially Peter. That all being said, technically we've got an issue left in this arc lol.

Criminology. - May 19, 2023

I was really not aware, the next issue would be a part of the current arc. But either way, we all know what's going to happen there and it feels somewhat disconnected from the stuff happening here for now at least. But that's all unless Marvel decides to pull the biggest marketing trick of the century, which would actually be really refreshing.

Psycamorean - May 19, 2023

I would genuinely be impressed with Marvel's editorial and marketing if the leaks were faked, but the announcement of the fallen friend one-shot alongside it makes that seem unlikely

Criminology. - May 19, 2023

True.