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Batman #50
| Writer | Tom King |
| Artist | Mikel Janin |
| Cover Price | $4.99 |
It's the wedding you never thought you'd see! The Batrimony is real as Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle are set to tie the knot in a can't-miss, extra-length milestone issue that will reshape Gotham City. All their friends (and a few enemies?) will be party to a comic book coupling for the ages. Superstar scribe Tom King officiates the sure-to-be-offbeat nuptials, joined by an all-star lineup of guest classic Bat-artists doffing their hats to the lucky couple in a series of pre-wedding flashback scenes sure to set the romantic mood.
CRITIC REVIEWS
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Big Comic Page - Sam Graven
Jul 04, 2018Now go buy the book. No excuses, just do it. Because it's beautiful and brilliant, and above all, it's Batman. Read Full Review
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Comicosity - Londyn Jackson
Jul 04, 2018While Batman #50 was a rollercoaster of emotions within the DC Universe and for readers all over the world, the art and the dialogue absolutely did not disappoint. The love story between Bruce and Selina, like it has been proven time and time again, will continually evolve like the beloved characters themselves. Read Full Review
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Comic Crusaders - Johnny "The Machine" Hughes
Jul 04, 2018Batman #50 is a one of those books that is going to divide opinion; some will hate it, some will love it. There may well be ramifications for the industry, not helped by DC pulling the carpet from underneath retailers and fans with their actions last weekend. Hopefully, when the smoke settles, people will realise that this book is a classic take on two classic characters, both of whom make decisions based on their love for each other. Read Full Review
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Pop Culture Uncovered - soshillinois
Jul 04, 2018While its a bit of a late arrival to start at issue 50 of a two year run, it doesnt necessarily matter in this case. King, Janin and everyone involved in this comic are celebrating a romance thats gone on decades now, and it kicks off a story that seems likely to be memorable in the Batman canon. But more importantly, its one that pays tribute to Batman and Catwoman. Read Full Review
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10
Infinite Earths - J.D. Jr.
Jul 04, 2018A hauntingly beautiful ballad to the everlasting love that is Batman and Catwoman! Read Full Review
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Comic Book Bin - Deejay Dayton
Jul 04, 2018Bravo to all involved. You executed an issue beyond my wildest expectations. Read Full Review
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GWW - Jimmy Montoya
Jul 04, 2018The art for this issue is right on par with its story, it's simply beautiful. There is one panel in particular that I love so, so much, that I ended up making it my phone wallpaper. In this issue you will fall in love from Catwoman's wedding dress to the pages where Bruce and Selina are sharing intimate moments. Everything about the art is superb. Read Full Review
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9.8
Monkeys Fighting Robots - Manny Gomez
Jul 04, 2018'Batman' #50 is certainly a milestone issue in terms of writing and art. The emotional and story revelations resonate and the art, on all fronts, packs a visual punch. Read Full Review
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9.7
The Brazen Bull - Charlie Chipman
Jul 04, 2018Controversy aside, Batman #50 is a very well-written and well-illustrated work that honors Batman & Catwoman's past while also looking to the future with bright eyes. Aside from the great story that Tom King has crafted (and has been crafting for that matter) the artwork in this book is stunning. Batman #50 is a must-read comics for fans of the Dark Knight. Read Full Review
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9.6
Forces Of Geek - Lenny Schwartz
Jul 04, 2018I did feel a little cheated at the end but maybe that's a good thing. It ended different than I thought it would for sure. Maybe King has a bigger plan in mind than we might have been expecting this whole time. Let's see where it goes. Recommended. Read Full Review
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9.5
AIPT - Gregory Paul Silber
Jul 04, 2018Read this for King's lyrical dialogue, his emotional honesty, his willingness to show us recognizable humanity through the lens of colorful superheroes even as that sounds like the stupidest endeavor on the planet. Read it for Mikel Janin, Becky Cloonan, Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez, Tim Sale, Neal Adams, and a host of other exceptional artists proving once again that superhero comic book art is still art, goddamn it. Read it because you believe that corporate-owned superhero comics can mean more than an endless sea of profit driven by movies, video games, and toys. Read Full Review
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9.1
Black Nerd Problems - Keith Reid-Cleveland
Jul 04, 2018Sidenote: Huge shoutout to all of the additional art from the dozens of artists who also contributed to this story. It was a nice way to pay homage to the many different ways we've seen these characters and gave us an idea of how we could in the future. Read Full Review
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9.1
IGN - Jesse Schedeen
Jul 04, 2018Batman #50 may underwhelm new readers, but it serves as a strong culmination of many ongoing storylines. Read Full Review
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9.0
The Super Powered Fancast - Deron Generally
Jul 04, 2018A great salute to both the character and relationship of Batman and Catwoman while honoring who they are as people and personas. Great read that opens the door to something interesting on the horizon. Read Full Review
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9.0
Geek Dad - Ray Goldfield
Jul 04, 2018Part lead-up to the wedding, part retrospective of Batman and Catwoman's wedding, this is a surprisingly tense and moody issue with a lot of complications. Read Full Review
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9.0
Geekery Magazine - Shawn A. Warner
Jul 04, 2018Issue after issue this Batman feels less like Batman, it could be that I was spoiled by the legendary Snyder/ Capullo run that rarely missed a beat, but I am more inclined to think that Tom King is a brilliant writer who has taken a few wrong turns on his journey to put his mark indelibly upon a hero bigger than any one writer. I am excited to see what shakes out in Gotham after the events of this arc have cooled, I believe King will land on his feet and go on to craft more and better tales of the Dark Knight Detective. Read Full Review
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9.0
Multiversity Comics - Jonathan O'Neal
Jul 05, 2018Tom King and Company have delivered an event-style "Batman" issue that transcends the hype by counterintuitively focusing on tiny kernels of monumental truth. Read Full Review
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9.0
Graphic Policy - Logan Dalton
Jul 06, 2018In Batman #50, Tom King, Mikel Janin, June Chung, and a talent group of guest artists craft the ultimate, tragic Batman love story and show the chemistry between Bat and Cat while also showing how their marriage ultimately wouldn't work out. This definitely isn't a big, guest star heavy special, but an intimate story of a man, who decides to work out his pain and sorrow dressed as a bat instead of finding love and peace with an enigmatic woman, who dresses like a cat. Read Full Review
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9.0
Chuck's Comic Of The Day - Chuck
Jul 07, 2018Since I haven't been reading the book, it was difficult to sort out what was going on here - and itcertainly moves in unexpected directions - but it's an outstanding package and a unique chapter in the Dark Knight's life. Read Full Review
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8.5
411Mania - John Pumpernickel
Jul 05, 2018Without spoiling anything, Batman #50 isn't the finale but a chapter in Catwoman and Batman's life together. In the world they live in it makes sense and is a nice reminder of what's at stake and how well they know one another. Read Full Review
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8.0
Lyles Movie Files - Jeffrey Lyles
Jul 04, 2018It's the final page that left me most excited about this wedding arc conclusion. King sets things up in a manner that warrants another look at his entire run for clues. I bet there's been several breadcrumbs he's left along the way, which would make his run even more impressive in retrospect. Without that final page I doubt this wedding arc would have been nearly as effective, but the future of Batman looks very bright going forward. Read Full Review
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8.0
We Got This Covered - Eric Joseph
Jul 04, 2018Tom King's latest contribution to the Batman mythos is worth every penny, spoilers be damned. Read Full Review
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8.0
ComicBook.com - Nicole Drum
Jul 04, 2018Overall, Batman #50 may not live up to the overwhelming hype that led up to it, but it doesn't need to. It's an issue that redefines and fundamentally changes Batman -- and Catwoman -- forever in a way that has been far too long in coming. Read Full Review
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Dark Knight News - Eric Lee
Jul 04, 2018There are some great material in this issue. Amazing artists, nice emotional beats, and an awesome twist ending. It is not a perfect wedding comic, but it is pretty darn good. Despite the spoilers leaking, some off characterizations, and redundant narratives, it would be a shame to not read the build-up to the ending. Check it out and form your own opinions on the resolution. Read Full Review
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8.0
DC Comics News - Steven Brown
Jul 04, 2018The hype and excitement has been building for this for awhile and I'm guessing with Bane's arrival there's a long endgame that we're gonna be seeing, but personally as a Batman fan I was looking forward into some more character development for Bruce, as well as Batman. Read Full Review
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8.0
Flickering Myth - Ricky Church
Jul 05, 2018Batman #50 is an intriguing way to present a wedding issue, especially one that's an 'anniversary' issue of a title. The emotion is solidly felt throughout the story and all the artists, from Janin to the various guests, gave great renditions of the couple. The ending is an abrupt one and more time could have been better spent on the day itself, but King gave a fairly solid issue with a very tantalizing hook for what comes next. Read Full Review
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8.0
Razorfine - Alan Rapp
Jul 06, 2018This, of course, leaves Batman solo and brooding once more and spins off Catwoman into her own series. I'll be curious to see if the wedding that never happened remains in continuity or eventually fades and is forgotten by all but fans. Worth a look. Read Full Review
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8.0
Henchman-4-Hire - Sean Ian Mills
Jul 07, 2018The story is fun, the additional artists are great to look at and the ending is powerful on several levels. Quality wedding issue all around! Read Full Review
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7.8
Word Of The Nerd - Brent Jackson
Jul 04, 2018For me Batman #50 was okay; having all the different artists was awesome. The story was interesting and I liked the actual ending, though I can't talk about one thing without spoiling it. I can see why people are upset that this was spoiled, but like I said earlier, that spoiler is not the biggest reveal. I do like what the ending sets up and it actually has me very interested in the stories to come. Read Full Review
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7.7
Comicsverse - Maite Molina
Jul 04, 2018BATMAN #50 doesn't necessarily live up to the hype, but it does have its moments, particularly through its exceptional collection of artwork. Read Full Review
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7.6
Sequential Planet - Quinn Morris
Jul 04, 2018I liked a lot of it, and it's much better than I expected it to be, but its many flaws are very difficult to overlook. Read Full Review
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7.5
Graphic Policy - Brett
Jul 04, 2018This is a chapter in King's larger story. There's much more to come as things weave together and that final panel indicates we've got a hell of a lot of excitement to come. As a single issue, this one has its good and its bad but as a piece of the larger puzzle it fits like a perfectly crafted piece of the larger picture. Read Full Review
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7.5
Comic Book Revolution - Kevin Lainez
Jul 05, 2018With Batman #50 Tom King builds the foundation for what the future of his run on this series will be built on. Throughout this issue King does a very good job getting over why the events that occurred took place, especially with who was behind it all at the end. Now the actual effectiveness of Batman #50 will hinder on if you have been reading King's run from the beginning. If you haven't it is tough to recommend Batman #50 being your starting point. You will get much more out of the events of Batman #50 if you go back and read King's run in its entirety up to this point. It will be well worth it and get you excited for Batman's future. Read Full Review
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7.0
Bounding Into Comics - Daniel Mills
Jul 05, 2018Yet where Batman #50 falls a bit short is in execution, not in consequences. The reader would be much more engaged with a straight forward story with some artist changes as opposed to lengthy text and many single-artist pages. Not every single in DC History needs to be an overview of the events that led up to this event. Catwoman and Batman may work together as a couple for now, but exploring their past only serves to make the reader feel more disjointed with their present. The actual plot and story contained in Batman #50 has all the emotional weight needed to keep audiences on edge, if only there was more of it. Read Full Review
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7.0
Comic Watch - Justin Cooper
Jul 13, 2018To be completely candid I had a hard time understanding the ending on this one. It was a small plot that built up to a climax that did not truly deliver. As for the artwork in the issue itself, I get the chance to cram as many artists in a milestone issue as possible; however, I do not think that you can count this since nothing eventually happened. I was actually disappointed with the lack of exposition, and can only say a bit bewildered by the ending. Read Full Review
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6.0
Comic Book Corps - Jeff
Jul 04, 2018It's clear to me that Tom King has a strong vision for his tale of Batman. I'm not sure his execution is always landing, or if I'll ever connect with his thesis on Batman for that matter, but at least - with annuals and specials like this issue - the art of Bats has never been so good, and at least we're all still talking about Batman. Read Full Review
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6.0
Comic Bastards - Cat Wyatt
Jul 04, 2018For an issue that they've been building up to for the better part of a year...this was only okay. If they hadn't been pushing out so many issues focused on it things might have felt differently, but in truth this really ends up feeling like a copout. Read Full Review
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6.0
The Batman Universe - Ian Miller
Jul 04, 2018Torn by external and internal factors, Batman #50 is nonetheless a powerful experience, pulled through by the strength of Kings ability to evoke emotion and connection. Read Full Review
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5.0
Newsarama - Pierce Lydon
Jul 05, 2018With a more compelling artist onboard and a more singular vision, I think it's possible that King could have communicated what he wanted to communicate to readers a little bit better. Read Full Review
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5.0
SciFiPulse - Patrick Hayes
Jul 06, 2018The story is milked and expanded by unnecessary slash pages that interrupt this predictable tale. This issue confirms that I shouldn't be reading Batman by King. Jann's art is wonderful, but the splash pages are hit and miss. This was a disappointing story with good to average art. A disappointing anniversary issue. Read Full Review
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4.5
Batman-News - Elena Carrillo
Jul 04, 2018Whether by directive or on his own steam, Tom King drops the trap under the feet of the collective fans caught in the gallows of this long slog of an event. Read Full Review
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4.0
Kabooooom - Roy Buckingham
Jul 04, 2018Batman #50 is modern day snake oil in the form of a comic book. All the beauty in the preceding pages was sullied and rendered emotionally worthless by the ending. Read Full Review
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4.0
Heroic Hollywood - Louis Otero
Jul 04, 2018At the center of this storyline has been one question: Will Batman finally get to be happy? He is one of the most tragic characters in literature, and one that his fans are deeply connected to. So, it shouldn't be surprising that we do want him to be happy. Instead, this issue just assures us that the next 50 issues of King'sBatman will be more of the same. Read Full Review
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4.0
We Have A Hulk - Louie Fecou
Jul 04, 2018Inconsequential and disappointing, this is a low point in what should have been a better story and to be honest, I'm not sure I even want to bother with issue 51. Read Full Review
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3.5
Bleeding Cool - Joshua Davison
Jul 03, 2018Batman #50 is a massive letdown of a comic. It shoots for meaning and deep emotional resonance but trips itself up on its own perception of what the Batman should be. It's a visually gorgeous book, and some of the writing is genuinely eloquent and beautiful. However, the whole is far less than the sum of its parts, and I can't recommend it. Read Full Review
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3.0
Weird Science - Eric Shea
Jul 04, 2018This is the culmination, recap and reiteration of Tom King's Batman run so far and since I haven't been a fan of that...Well, I'm not a fan of this either. All that and the ending doesn't make any sense at all. At least at the end of the day I can say that the pictures looked pretty. Read Full Review
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You Don't Read Comics - Christopher Holden
Jul 11, 2018Ultimately, Batman #50 succeeds in stoking the interests of long-time readers with the odd assemblage of villains complicit in Banes plot seen in the last panel--particularly given the inclusion of traditionally altruistic characters: Holly Robinson, Gotham Girl, Flashpoint Batman (Thomas Wayne), and Skeets. However, the misleading nature of the issue may inadvertently lead to an overall loss of patronage and interest among readers. Read Full Review
USER REVIEWS
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*spoilers* Wow great issue, King pays Homage to the Bat and Cat history with pin-up art, while continuing his fresh and original work on the Bat/Cat romance. Its charming, introspective, intriguing, and quite sad. It's a heartbreaker, and the ending truly had me surprised. Cant wait to see what this is leading up to... if anything it seems like its gonna get pretty dark, but this is a batman comic after all. Still hoping it's just the darkness before dawn, but I have a feeling it's only just now struck midnight.
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Tom King has become politics. Oh my gosh.
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I love everything in this issue! Thanks Tom King! The future looks great!
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One of the best issues which I've read. Good writing, full of emotions and beutifull art.
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lovely issue
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9.5
WOW. That was NOT the comic book I wanted to read. After 4+ years of build up I really wanted to see Batman and Catwoman embark on a happy life together. But that would have been too easy. 50 issues, it turns out, is genuinely not enough time to earn that enormous sea change. I gotta say I had a sinking feeling ever since spoilers were posted though I did manage to avoid ALL of them. The book was a total surprise to me. I found the pinups that made up so much of the book to be a letdown and it was hard to see Selina leave Bruce at the 'altar' as in it hurt. This book often hurts and I give it extra marks for that. The pinups were extra and any fat on what was an otherwise brilliant issue felt extra but so I'm docking it half a point. But those that could hang in long enough for the last page reveal, well, it was absolutely everything. We all thought the question was would they marry or wouldn't they but we found out there's so much more going on! King's Batman has already been so surprising. Now we find out the whole arc has been manipulated by Bane to break Batman way worse than he did when he broke his back. And I've gone from enjoying the heck out of this series under King's pen to being on the edge of my seat, trying to figure out how this could all possibly be true. Nothing could have gotten me more excited for the next 50 issues to come. What a run! You got me, Tom King. You took away the thing I thought I wanted and replaced it with so much more. This almost never happens in superhero comics. King is transcending the medium and thank goodness for him. more
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Superheroes for Hire - Jul 5, 2018I like the way you worded that - not the book you wanted to read. I think there is story potential in a married Batman, but a solid case was laid out in this story for why Catwoman felt like she had to leave Batman at the altar. Plus, all of previous plot lines continue to point to a scheme to remove Batman from his role as hero. Where will it all end up?
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9.5
Yes, it was wrong of DC to hype up the wedding and then it not happen. Yes, I'm pissed that it didn't. However, this is still a great issue of Batman. Most of King's run has been hit or miss, but everything came together in this one. The duel narratives, the art reflective of Batman's history, and the emotion it contains. Most of the complaints seem to be about the wedding not actually happening, instead of the issue itself, which is a disservice to all who contributed, including those who laid the foundation for King to come and spin his tale. Given that we're halfway into his run on Batman, and a huge part of it has been over whether or not Batman can truly be happy, I think it's safe to say that this is not the last we'll see if t he Bat/Cat romance. more
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Æther - Jul 4, 2018I feel he cheated a bit with catwoman and batman being shown old and happily married into old age in that Annual issue... that stuff is canon right? so this story kinda obviously has a bright ending in my mind for the Bat/Cat romance. I love being played by the wedding trap, it really puts me in Batmans shoes.
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9.0
The run is planned for 100 issues, I guess we could expect something like this, the art in perfect in all the pages with thousand invited artist. It is true that DC play with us, the marketing killing machine...
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9.0
I've absolutely loved this issue. The emotions of the two main characters are portrayed exceptionally well, as well as greatly enhanced by all the incredible art spreads. While I do definitely understand why the majority may find this issue bad and even offensive, I've got exactly what I have expected and it did not disappoint at all. This theme has been a recurring thing in King's run since the first issue and I love it. Here's to another 50 issues.
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9.0
Tom King and Mikel Janin are awesome, and this issue reaffirms that. Though I was let down a bit by the ending, it was beautifully written and illustrated.
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9.0
I’m a bit disappointed with what happened however I understand the thinking behind it. The way this book was put together was fantastic! I love the two perspectives and two artists idea I found it very clever and well written
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8.5
Oh my god I didn't really expect this :O
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8.5
I'm not going to lie, I wanted to hate this issue. I was very disappointed in the spoiler 4 days before the event and the false promises. If I was giving a biased review, I would have given this comic a 1. Honestly, spoiling the comic 4 days early may have saved this comic from the 1 rating because by the time the issue was released I was fine and ready to read the issue with an open mind. This was a beautiful issue that showcased the love between Batman and Catwoman. The love they have is so genuine that I am hopeful that they will be married by the end of this 100 issue arc. Even if they do not invite the entire superhero community, I would like the Batfamily to be present. For that reason alone, I'm glad the wedding didn't happen. I also need Catwoman to leave her criminal friends in the PAST (with the exception of Harley and maybe Ivy). It has bit her in the butt the last two issues of Batman. One of my favorite moments in the issue was between Bruce and Alfred. I am glad they acknowledged the significant impact Alfred has had in Bruce's life. He took on the role of his Father when he didn't have to and it was nice to see Alfred appreciated for his efforts. I also enjoyed the numerous pictures depicting Batman and Catwoman together. I was going to quit this comic but I will carry on and continue to hope for the payoff Batman and Catwoman deserve. I took off a point for the spoiler fiasco & the crazy notion that Bruce cannot be an effective Batman without sadness in his life. more
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8.0
The road to this issue was a bumpy one, with a few ups and downs and some spoilers just days before the release (good thing I don't follow comic book news). But the wedding is finally here and they will live happily ever after... right? I was afraid that Tom King may try to overdo it in this issue, by trying to be deep and profound which does not always work, indicated by the last two issues starring The Joker. But in issue 50 he controlled himself, or someone controlled him, either way, this is a good read. Bat and Cat decide to marry at dawn and as they prepare we get a parade of various artists, like Clay Mann, Greg Capullo, Joelle Jones and many many more, showing their rendition of bride and groom. All those pages show snippets of letters the two wrote to each other. The proper story is by Mikel Janin who, I must say, draws the best looking Alfred that I saw. SPOILERS!!! SPOILERS!!! SPOILERS!!! Sooo. We reach the wedding ceremony and... Selina is no show. She stood Bruce up. Granted, she had her reasons and she did that with a broken heart. She thought, what I assume many fans thought too, if Bruce is happy can he still be Batman? Despite this I still love Catwoman, but I'm on the fence about this decision. On one hand, I feel a bit cheated. I was so excited since the proposal, then a yearlong wait, the buildup, the tie-ins and what I got was a cold shower and slap in the face. On the other hand, someone along the line would make them divorce or something like that and I think that would piss me off even more. Still, the last page indicates that it might have been not entirely Selina's own decision. Maybe Selina was manipulated by Holly and the cabal of Batman's villains and apparently his dad? I don't know, but I am really excited to find out. Overall this is a really good issue. I'm sure many readers will be mad as hell, because of the outcome, but there is nothing I can do about it, other than saying that I understand why they are angry. more
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Æther - Jul 4, 2018It's great, it really pains you to read, and makes me feel for Batman. Cant remember the last time I've been so emotionally invested in a comic. Also yeah, I cant wait to see what happens next, I just love how everything is so intricately designed, and woven together. What most people see as "filler" issues will likely all be threads part of a single grand design.
egonnn244 - Jul 5, 2018I think you may be exaggerating with the intricate design and things being woven together. I'm sure King had the bigger story mapped out from the start, but I sincerely doubt that every little thing, including "fillers", will pay off in the future.
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8.0
Wow, this issue is receiving a violent reaction from the fans here...I thought it was pretty good. First--yeah, it's a bit of a sham that the wedding doesn't even happen. Yeah, it was a bit of a letdown, and the idea that Catwoman steps away because Batman needs his misery to be who he is kind of shitty. But maybe that's true? Anyway, the art was absolutely great, with several pages that could be framed on the wall. The page where Bruce asks Alfred to be his best man (or whatever) was great...I don't really think people want to read the adventures of married Batman, if it would have gone down that way...I was entertained, loved a lot of the pin-up pics, and am gonna keep reading so...yup, I pretty much liked it.
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Superheroes for Hire - Jul 5, 2018My interpretation is that Catwoman doesn't leave because she thinks Bruce needs to new miserable. She knows that Bruce must be a hero, and he can't save people if he's married and always trying too be husband first. She decides she also must be a hero and make a sacrifice to serve the greater good. If she sacrifices Batman, he keeps being a hero, and he keeps saving people. He keeps stopping Joker, he keeps saving orphans, he keeps stopping muggers.
Superheroes for Hire - Jul 5, 2018I love the deep and complex look at what it means to be a hero. It's what I've always loved about the Peter Parker back story. He misses out on a lot of the easy parts in life, so that he can save people and stop bad guys.
Talon1load - Jul 6, 2018It’s lazy. Heroes can be happy and married and still be heroes. This was just lazy writing.
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8.0
I had to know. I was spoiled. I wanted to know how this issue turned out, so I sought out spoilers. Then I had to read it for myself. I won't spoil anything in my review, but to say that it's great. It's Tom King. It's Batman and Catwoman. It's some of the most beautiful Bat-Cat art you'll ever see. And then there is intrigue aplenty! If you love what Tom King has been doing with the Batman series since Rebirth, you will love issue 50 and the narratives he continues to spin for the Bat Family in Gotham. Side note: the little nods to past creators and continuity make for an enjoyable experience on top of the story being told. Now let's see where the next 50 issues of this run take us.
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Superheroes for Hire - Jul 6, 2018Upon a little further reflection, I had to lower from 9 to 8. Too much spinning the wheels, and overall a story I don't want any more of. I get it, but let's just all move on to something different. No more Bat and Cat, or I'm out.
Superheroes for Hire - Nov 5, 2018Just to add some more reflection: I don't think this issue was worth any of the hype several issues later. We continue to see Batman spin out of control following the events here. Given the lack of payoff on the buildup to Issue 50, I really don't expect any payoff on any of the other plot points introduced in #50. Yes, we'll eventually get a showdown with the Big Bad shown, but I have no confidence it will be very satisfying.
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8.0
Beautiful array of art, contributed by some of DC's finest. A pretentious ending that was barred down in controversy, but with some intrigue to characters like Bane, Psycho Pirate & Flashpoint Batman (!?). Impressive Jim Lee variant and fantastic splash pages by Frank Miller, Greg Capullo, Weeks, Fabok, Tim Sale, and a cute Tony s Daniel image. King's dichotomous prose is in full force and most of the writing is beautiful and compelling, revealing great moments throughout the issue. Staying optimistic for the next two years of King's run.
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7.5
I loved all the different artists from Batman history and all the references to writers and others involved in past Batman runs. I avoided spoilers after all the outrage tipped me off, but I could guess there was a reason for it. Kind of what I expected, really.
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M1sf1r3 - Jul 4, 2018Just want to ask what parts did you like? Whilst I personally didn't enjoy the issue, your opinion's your opinion and just want to see what you saw that I didn't.
Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Jul 4, 2018First of all, I am a fan of Tom King's run, that certainly helps. I enjoy his writing style. And mostly besides all of the art, references, back and forth between Batman and Catwoman, it was that final panel... Tom King just flipped this whole run over on it's head. We were all led to believe it was about Batman getting married, we were led to believe Batman outsmarted Bane, instead we see every single arc since I am Suicide (posssibly even before?) has been Bane's plan of emotionally destroying
M1sf1r3 - Jul 4, 2018I mean I personally like Tom King's writing and the first half of his run (I am Trilogy and Jokes and Riddles), but the whole falling through of the whole last 20 something issues and preludes just killed it for me. Whilst yes the last page was interesting it leaves lots of questions such as why Skeets, Flashpoint Batman (which was why Bruce decided to marry Selina in the first place), Gotham Girl and Joker (who supposedly died in the previous issue) were there.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018It's cool, you should have all sorts of questions halfway through a story. It's fun to discover the answers. I would avoid Tie-in comics like the plague. Sucks you haven't been enjoying the last issues, this issue just gave me a greater appreciation for the 'I am Bane' arc.
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7.5
Had good promise but Tom king really missed the mark.
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7.0
disappointing.
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7.0
While it's not the ending I wanted, it was a testament to the characters' histories and seemingly looks to tie together all of King's run. I don't think it'll help bring in new and excited readers.
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7.0
what the hell just happened? The art of comic is fantastic with all those artists work on it, but Tom King failed miserably.
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7.0
I thought the book was really well written and could have gone down as a classic if they just would have went through with the wedding. Kind of irritates me. There are some fantastic looking pages in this book, but overall a weird way to end it. Especially the last page.
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6.0
The art is amazing, as usual. Sometimes, you can catch a glimpse of the writer of vision and mr miracle, but most of the time the writing is subpar. Like most, I am very disappointed with the twist.
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6.0
The only thing that made this book a 6 was the artwork. Come read the rest of my review and find out why I yelled at my husband for getting me into comic books at dccomicgoddess.com
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6.0
"Huh?" is usually not a good reaction to such an anticipated event. I literally flipped back to make sure I understood what had just happened. I don't think the lead up was all that bad, the Joker story in DC Nation #0 where he's waiting for his invitation to the wedding at some random person's house was genuinely creepy and had me excited for how Joker would disrupt the wedding. The problem is the whole idea that a big event has to happen at exactly a milestone issue - and here it fell flat. I mentioned it before but go read Saga #50, no earth shattering moments (not till #53!!). I still enjoy Tom King and Lee Weeks and Mr. Freeze will be awesome, but man this was a letdown.
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5.0
We've all waited for... this. Where to begin? Maybe with Prelude comics, I considered to be pretty bad, Nightwing/Hush issue aside. I was hoping, truly, we can just leave them all behind, forget them, and finally proceed, get the main dish that was hyped for months. Long story short, the issue is a hot mess, mostly because it happens to be a wasted opportunity. Seeing so many pages drawn by legendary artists, including Jim Lee, Tim Sale and Frank Miller, was a nice concept, however in practice I was doing my best to read every single one of them as quickly as possible, since they don't offer anything interestin story-wise. Yeah, eyes, I get it, they're important, let's move on, we've met on a ship, no, we've met on a street - either way, we've heard that before already. Superman's 1000th issue was a collection of stories written and drawn by different artists, all of them different tonally, but also self contained and consistent. This one tries to marry (pun intended) dozen different things together. Not surprisingly, the result is something that resembles a creation of Victor Frankenstein. Watch out, Selina, because you may end up like Elizabeth. The problems go further, however - even after reading the issue the second time, ignoring all interludes/fillers, it was hardly entertaining, and lacked any personality. The only moment I really enjoyed was Bruce asking Alfred to be his best man - that felt emotional and sweet. Other than that, the comic fails to tell an interesting story, or at least provide some good dialogue that would compensate the lack of action and narration. It's a colossal disappointment, lacking any substance and feeling like a waste of talent. And reader's time for that matter. I hate to hate a Batman comic, but man, was that underwhelming after all these weeks of promotion and labeling the event as one of the biggest things in the DC Comics. more
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5.0
Mawkish. Plodding. Illogical. Occasionally intriguing. Frustrating. Beyond reeling off individual adjectives, I am having difficulty in summarising my thoughts in prose. My only advice is to pick it up and read it for yourself. Folks who buy what Tom King is selling will no doubt agree with a lot of the higher-scoring reviews that have been posted here. However, if King's run continues in this vein, Batman will officially be off my pull list for the first time since it was put on with Batman #13 of the New 52 back in October 2012 (first issue of 'Death in the Family', as I recall).
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4.5
I could have been just as disappointed in less time for a lower cover price without all of the extra pages of pillow talk. Fake-outs are always lame, but I'll respect that this is the direction that King wants to take this... But don't artificially inflate the price like that. At least we got a nice little moment with Alfred out of it.
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4.0
Well, I'm not gonna deny, I am disappointed. I could have seen that this will happen. Because Tom is very good at manipulating emotions judging from previous stories, but I really wanted this marriage. I will somewhat keep up with the book because it seems to me like Dr. Manhattan is somewhat behind this judging from the end panel and the ending issue of Man of steel. But Tom pulled the rug at the worst moment possible. Guess every Batman writer has to make a really really bad idea. Grant Morrison made Damian almost kill Tim, even though Tim save him from becoming dino food. Scott Snyder retconning Mr.freeze origin. And also, both of them making Batman into some sort of prep time BatGod. And now King will be remembered as the one who pulled the rug at the wrong time. I'm somewhat scared that people will look at this issue as the One More Day of Batman books. Even though it isn't that bad. more
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4.0
i liked a lot of it. until the ending made me wanna jump off a roof. i find i write too many negative reviews and i apologize for that. but when you cut my batman drug with this laxative garbage, im going to shit on you. not tom king, hes just another asshole trying to make a buck. however, DC, you dumb fuck, when your product is crap, people are not going to buy it. you seem to think quantity over quality is the way into the black, but just like every other corporate dipshit raised on outdated and repugnant schooling, you will soon find that no one buys into that bullshit anymore. there are astounding writers/artists/dreamers creating and inventing wares that are being sold for the amazingly low price of fucking free. stop disappoi nting your readers. the ones blowing smoke up your ass are z-generationals who grew up thinking "negative criticism" was how the troll patriarchy killed the dinosaurs. ...tl;dr batman deserves better more
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4.0
I've read comics with disappointing endings before, but this is likely the biggest of the decade. Sure, I knew it wouldn't go through. Batman's one of the only major superheroes neither to marry or go public with their identity. Not to mention Marvel pulled the same stunt at the same time with their own "Wedding of the year," but at least they had a surprise unexpected couple to marry in the end. I'll admit the end sequence with Bane and a horde of other villains seemed interesting, it turned out over time to be the big boring letdown that would be called "City of Bane." But let's face it. All this really was was one of Dan DiDio's half baked schemes to print up a ton of variants, sell them at a ludicrous cost, make money, then let everyon e down with a boring issue that, regardless of which of the 7,392 different variants they bought, won't go for more than they paid for it on the collector's market ever. Tom King really should've ended his run with this issue. It had already been a while since he'd put out the last of his good work. more
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3.5
A lot of tie ins and nothing happened. A ultra boring comic. Please TK, you can do more.
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3.5
I’m not going to pretend that I don’t feel duped here. The art highlighting the Bat/Cat stories throughout the years was splendid, BUT we all expected a freakin’ wedding!! Hopefully King can clean this up somehow.
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3.0
Lol, this was so bullshit. What a disappointment. DC built this up to be such a huge event only for them to backtrack because Batman NEEDS to be F%@CKING SAD!!!! Hell yeah, sure!!! Not like 80 years of history and more than 20 issues of this run didn't hype this up to be the holy grail of events. What a letdown, I hope the Batfamily hunts down Cat because of her poorly thought out reason. And what's up with that last panel? Gotham girl? Flashpoint Batman? When did they care about wanting to make Batman suffer? Tom King is high and I actually loved this run upto this total betrayal.
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3.0
Boy, am I tired of reading "epic" comic-book stories that crumble from lack of internal logic. SPOILER ALERTS: So now we're supposed to believe that Bane somehow masterminded this entire event since...when? Causing Batman to propose? Having Selina accept, knowing she and Joker would have a near-death colloquy in which he'd plant the idea in her head that Batman can't be happy, that would make her change her mind? Was that Bane's idea, or Joker's? Was Joker following Bane's instructions then? (Not bloody likely). How could all these criminals, who Batman has put away, assemble together without The World's Greatest Detective having a clue? All my "points" are awarded for the art.
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myconius - Jul 4, 2018having Bane as the mastermind of ALL of this just feels so very lazy and contrived.
Æther - Jul 9, 2018Bane is a methodical villain who has been actively involved in this story from the beginning, how is that contrived? All feels very natural to me. Banes didn't make the proposal happen or make them fall in love. Batman and Catwoman did that themselves, Bane is just taking advantage. Important details have always been explained later in the story. People were panicking about Holly, o but it's clear she turned herself in now. Just let everything unfold before freaking out.
Æther - Jul 9, 2018Holly was really the one that got the cat to run. But yeah that was the only thing Bane really wanted. Was to break up the two,joker played a part as well, probably drugged em hah idk. So much pessimism, hes pumping two of these out a month while writing other comics, not an easy job.
myconius - Jul 11, 2018in this world there are those who enjoy the taste of kool aid ...and those who do not.
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3.0
Well, that hype was a waste of time. And so was the synopsis for this issue. And all the build up. I guess the cliffhanger is okay-ish? But after all that hype and build-up, why end it just there?
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3.0
I really didn't like it. Tom King since I am Bane ended has been let down after let down after filler. DC made a major mistep in the NY Times spoil, but honestly the real mistake is that all of this story changed absolutely nothing. Why have all this build up to do nothing? The book is a master class in art. The artists coming together to pay homage to Batman and Catwoman did a great job showing the spirit and history of the couple, but that is all you get. We could have done an art book and gotten the same level of joy because the story is week. Detective comics is the Batman book to follow and I don't see myself reading Batman until Tomorrow King is off the book. I also reject the only a sad unloved Batman can defend Gotham. I reject it because Batman has the largest family in all of DC comics. If Batman can be a father and continue the fight then why can't he be a husband? I also find it hard to believe that all of this just came to Selina's mind on the wedding day and not during the huge amount tie in and lead up story that DC milked for this weak story arc. A waste of time more
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myconius - Jul 9, 2018beautifully put! especially the reasoning debunking that a happy Batman cannot defend Gotham. that's just a terrible idea put in place from the Nolan movies. during the Silver age of comics, Batman wasn't some tragic broken hero and he defended Gotham just fine. now comic writers just want to turn every hero into James O'Barr's 'The Crow'.
myconius - Jul 11, 2018seeing Eric Draven act as tortured is more suitable as his tragedy had just happened. Batman has had years to focus his grief into being disciplined. becoming a master detective, tactician, scientist, martial artist. he'd have never accomplished any of those things had he been wallowing in self pity the whole time.
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3.0
What the hell is going on?!
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2.5
Loved the great artists. But c'mon the story was terrible. Very sad I bought variant covers for this, I guess a sad Batman is the only effective batman :-)
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2.5
I have never been more disappointed in a comic in my life. I’m just now reading it in 2021, so I can’t imagine what fans felt when it actually came out. They spend like 30 issues setting up this wedding… just for (SPOILER!) there to be no wedding! They teased it to be a huge event throughout the DC Universe and instead it was just some lame repeat of the same ole cliche of “I love you too much to put you in harms way†type of bs. Worst Batman comic I’ve ever read.
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2.0
Wow, I would like to apologize to any and every person I ever defended Kings's Batman run to, and apologize to the general public for potentially misleading people. Now I live in fear for the ending of Mister Miracle.
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myconius - Jul 4, 2018don't sweat it. we all wanted to believe. but DC has burned us so many times before. i look at all the time and money i've wasted on both Batman Eternal series just to get a padded story with a giant flop of an ending.
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2.0
SPOILER WARNING!!! (But the New York Times already did so...) Can I just ask a question? Why the hell did we just sit through 26 or so issues of books (And those preludes) about Catwoman and why Batman deserves her to NOT get married? I'm someone who trade waits usually and I'm annoyed at how much money people have lost on this trip to nowhere. There's some nice art in the book, but there's also some nice art on the internet somewhere so it doesn't redeem the book for me. Selina's reasoning is stupid (There's a reason why Robin exists DC. Hint: To sure that Bruce can be happy and isn't all doom and gloom) and in the final page King ignores his own continuity along with some characters that shouldn't be there. All in all, I am just fl at out annoyed and angry at DC for doing this in what seems to just be a cash grab. Edit: Linking points from my comments on a review site that apply and provide a bit of my perspective of King's run in general I was on board for King's run during the "I am" trilogy, The Button and War of Jokes and Riddles. One of the main problems for me is that I am reasonably new to the DC universe, only really jumping into comics last year. I still knew some basics, mainly the ones everyone knows (Clark Kent is Superman with these powers, Bruce Wayne is Batman) and that was pretty much it. Hell, I didn't even know who the Flash's identity was, his other job or that he was blond, just that he ran fast. What I'm trying to get at is that while I was on board for King's run, it just isn't hitting anymore especially after this issue. If King is going for a 100 issue run and this is halfway then I am not looking forward seeing that he is ignoring his own continuity and this rate. more
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2.0
To disappointed fans: Just look at the issue this way-- Do you really want Batman and Catwoman's wedding to be presided over by a slobby judge too drunk to know what he's doing?
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2.0
Hot garbage. I would score it 0 without the pin-up art.
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2.0
to make the issue super special they decided to let anyone who knew how to eat crayons do the art, and actually put their names right there on most pages within the panels. and... we get the stupidest possible ending... granted they've been teasing it already - that "Batman can't BE Batman unless he's unhappy" so, to save the world, they won't get married. and somehow Bane is behind all of it, sitting there like a gang leader with Joker, Riddler and other enemies gloating. yeah.
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2.0
I don't know why I keep expecting anything significant to ever change for Marvel/DC characters. It's pathetic.
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2.0
WTF did I just read. Did BMB start writing Batman too or has TK sucked this bad all along. It takes a straight up jackass to have written that story. TK, you suck.
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1.5
Screw this séries, screw Tom Kings to ruin Batman. You build up this wedding for months & that's the pay off that we gets to wait that BS that make Selina & Bruce even worst then before, if that make you exicted 4 new Catwoman séries i sorry but you failed to do that
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1.5
Absolute trash. We have all these preludes and specials for something that doesn't happen. This was a marketing stunt, plain and simple. Tom King says his arc is 100 issues. So what? That gives you a free pass not to be criticized? I was never a fan of King's run, but was actually thinking this could be somewhat good, to see Batman in a different light than ever before. But no. Bruce is too damaged. WE'VE SEEN THAT A MILLION TIMES. And I get that Bane has somehow done all of this to him, but still. Bane did all of this just to ruin a wedding? Yeah, okay King. I think one of the worst things about this was that I learned about this Sunday night. Not looking for spoilers, just looking through me feed and I saw a HEADLINE. King is going to see a major drop in sales. Good. I hope DC and King have learned their lesson, but I know they haven't. But it's okay guys, just spend the hundreds of dollars on the next 50, with the hope that maybe something will happen in one of them. And can we talk about how the wedding was just 5 people on a roof? Yeah, so you didn't need to buy the preludes at all. The thing is, people say that Batman is humanized with Kings run. How can you say that when his son(s) is not invited to his own wedding, not to mention Superman, who we know from the preludes, WAS GOING TO BE HIS BEST MAN! I've lost all hope in this comic. King and DC should be ashamed for just taking our money and going back on promises. more
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myconius - Jul 4, 2018exactly!!! what was the point of all these build up issues if Superman, Wonder Woman, Nightwing ... even Batman's own Son aren't going to the wedding. this whole thing was just so poorly handled. Tom King has this misconception that Batman is still trapped in his Melancholy 'Year One' mentality. so why reference New52 Zero Year if he's just going to constantly take from 'Year One'? it's a mess.
TheGeekWonder - Jul 4, 2018Yep!! The thing that gets me is that this is such a missed opportunity. Sad, really.
myconius - Jul 4, 2018and the inclusion of everyone from the entire run in that last panel made absolutely no sense whatsoever. especially Gotham Girl & Flashpoint Batman. Bane was able to orchestrate ALL of these events??? i don't think so!
TheGeekWonder - Jul 4, 2018This not only betrays our trust, but the LCSs will suffer, and not just with this issue!
myconius - Jul 6, 2018the way this was marketed to the LCSs was outright fraud. i wonder if any of the stores that invested in exclusive covers are going to close because of this?
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1.0
DC and Tom King should be ashamed of themselves.
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1.0
I have to say that I'm frusturated.I know the issue hasn't been released but I read the article NY Times published. SPOILER ALERT I don't care if there is another twist besides Catwoman leaving and Bane being behind all this.This was a terrible conclusion.It's time for a new writer for Batman series. Edit:I read the issue and my opinion is still same.
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1.0
i should have known to stay away the first time i left this series. but i allowed myself to be lured back with false hope. what's worse is so many stories leading up to this issue have been nothing more than useless filler!! there is a poor excuse of a twist at the end that’s supposed to set up what’s to come. but WHO CARES??? they think after this gargantuan betrayal, we’re just supposed to trust them again???? F@&% THAT!!! F@&% YOU DC !!! and F@&% YOU Tom King !!! you just DO NOT understand the character!!! take this pathetic Emo excuse for Batman and stick it right up your greedy cash grabbing @&$ !!! and no amount of bonus pin-up art can possibly make up for this GIANT cluster F@&% either!!!! also.... in the las t issue Catwoman was shot point blank in the gut. how is she walking around just fine in this issue? more
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myconius - Jul 4, 2018i definitely was cranky having staying up late for the special midnight opening. i feel like such an idiot. then after reading all those painful pages upon pages of useless prose just to get to that FLOP ending, i was ready to punch a damn hole in the wall !!!! but what really REEEEEALLY lit me on FIRE was that i ordered SO many of the damn variant covers!!!!!
TheGeekWonder - Jul 4, 2018I know. Every writer does this stupid "Batman is so broken, he cannot be happy. He is just a kid stuck in the past." thing. WHO CARES? King thinks he's soooooo clever. No. He's not.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018You literally said nothing. It's like if I just said "your bad and stupid, I dont like you, I hate you, you dont understand anything about me or anyone" it's amazing how so many like a review that has no explanation and so little to say. What a joke, and you call Batman the Emo hahaha well he is and always has been, but you're a bigger one.
myconius - Jul 4, 2018Ladies and Gentlemen, the moment we have all been waiting for has finally arrived! May I present you to Æther, the comic book nazi.
TheGeekWonder - Jul 4, 2018You can't say that myconius doesn't have a point, whether you like Kings take on Batman or not. It was a cash grab, especially with the preludes. And I think myconius was saying that King is going overboard with damaged (hence "emo") Batman, which is a story that is unoriginal and said in every since King comic.
myconius - Jul 4, 2018TheGeekWonder - you see my point exactly. Batman has moved past this feeling sorry for himself so very long ago. but it seems that nobody has told Tom King this. regardless this was a total shameless cash grab! plain and simple. it was falsely advertised, and many people are livid. especially retailers.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018Tom Kings run and story are not a cash grab. Thats all corporate DC bullshit, not Tom Kings fault. I didn't read a single tie-in because I have been suckered by blatant cash grabs enough already, they aren't a part of the lead writers original vision.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018Tom King has a point, Batman is damaged, he mopes around in a cave brooding, with childish yet endearing hope's to change the world, hes never really grown up. I've never read a Batman comic that has truly been at its heart and core all about Batmans romantic endeavors to this extent, it is very original and more personal than a Batman comic has ever been. If anything can help batman grow up and get over he traumatic childhood, it would be a good woman.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018It was too early to give him his happiness however, we are only half way through!! Now we are going to see batman at his darkest, deeply heartbroken, and wont you be excited... most emo. :P haha it's great stuff. 1/10 though man? Seriously if you dont like it fine but 1/10 makes me think you're just on some carpboy bandwagon. I read eternity girl this year, I know what a 1/10 is.
myconius - Jul 4, 2018Æther are you seriously that insecure that you need everyone to love the exact same cartoon books that you do?
myconius - Jul 4, 2018fyi - didn't even bother reading a single word you just wrote. your opinion means less than nothing to me.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018I didn't ask you to agree, only that you explain yourself in a way I can actually understand.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018Fyi- I read everything you write, therefore I have better understanding and critique than you can hope for.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018You're the one that cant read opinions that object to your own without becoming a child, fuck off. And you call batman the emo hahaha what are you an SJW now also, cause you're acting like one.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018You're the one talking to yourself, remember you cant read opinion contrary to your own because your a man baby. So yes keep breathing, good job child.
Who’s afraid of the big, bad - Jul 4, 2018Geez, this troll really likes to comment on other people’s opinions. Do you even write your own review? It was a cash grab. Even the pin-up art, which I liked, was bs. Professing their true love only to pull the rug in the end because of a totally ridiculous reason. Bane orchestrated the whole thing?!? How is Joker hale and hearty standing there? For that matter, how is Catwoman? I do not care for King’s Batman. I’m dropping the series. Last time you’ll see me rate this comic until King is gone.
Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Jul 4, 2018Just stopping by to say I agree with AEther and also love this issue and Tom King. Don't skewer me. Okay, bye. Also AEther is wrong about Eternity Girl, but that is okay.
Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Jul 4, 2018Actually, everyone is right. Disregard the previous message. Lets hold hands and sing Hakuna Mutate, it's a wonderful phrase.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018There are comments for a reason, you make it sound like I should stay in a bubble with only those who agree with me. That would be foolish and ignorant, I comment on the most popular post I happen to disagree with so I can talk to the majority who dont share my opinion. I find it interesting and enlightening... at least until you stick your fingers in your ears and scream.
Æther - Jul 4, 2018Anyways I disagree, the tie-ins were the cash grab... this is a story of batman being played by some of his greatest villains, thier plan was to distract... and break the bat, who better than Bane to lead this jaunting crusade of vengeance against the batman, I ask you? It's batmans love story, and now the bats heart breaks.
myconius - Jul 5, 2018there you go, Æther! just take it easy. steady breaths. breath in……breath out…….breath in……breath out…….breath in……breath out…….
egonnn244 - Jul 5, 2018Holy nightmare Batman, some people really don't know how to have a civil discussion on the internet.
Talon1load - Jul 5, 2018I definitely disagree with AEther, sorry I don’t know how to make it look cool, but I also disagree with how the whole discussion seems to have devolved. However, you did call him some sort of carpboy bandwagon, not sure what that means, for giving the issue a 1/10 when you gave it a 10/10. This is the best a comic can get? Almost all of you reviews of Kings work is a 10/10. That makes you seem more like a bandwagon fan than anyone else.
Superheroes for Hire - Jul 5, 2018Or you can appreciate the ride for what it is. Nothing about this story is out of character for the last 49 issues. Dial back the hostility. If you don't like the story, don't buy the book. One thing you can't say though, is that Tom King doesn't understand Batman's character. He does understand, but maybe he doesn't tell a story you want to read or maybe he doesn't tell it in a voice you react positively to. The letters in this book are proof of the conflict Bruce and Selina find themselves in.
Talon1load - Jul 5, 2018You can definitely say he doesn’t understand the character. He’s given no indication that he understands anything about Batman that isn’t surface level. He thinks Batman is incompetent, a broken child, and incapable of being happy despite a huge history that shows otherwise.
myconius - Jul 5, 2018"Nothing about this story is out of character for the last 49 issues"? if that's what you'd like to believe, then you are entitled to your opinion. in all my years of reading Batman i have never seen Batman portrayed in such a pathetic self-loathing manner. Tom King very much does not understand Batman. he thinks Bruce being Batman is some sort of form of suicide, seeking 'a good death'. that line was taken out of context from TDKR. his writing feels like fan fiction.
myconius - Jul 5, 2018Talon1load - that's an excellent analogy of this character King is passing off as Batman. he's very much a broken child, he's very incompetant, and he really seems to enjoy feeling sorry for himself. i can see why people call him Soy-Batman or Low Testosterone Batman.
Æther - Jul 5, 2018Well to carp is to complain or find fault continually, typically about trivial matters. Carpboy Bandwagon, the implication should be clear. As for myself, yeah I'm a fanboy for now, but Im always ready and more than willing to jump off a bandwagon if I'm on one. King honestly just hasn't disappointed me, Night of the Monstermen was easily the weakest but I blame Orlando for that mess.
Æther - Jul 5, 2018Thus far I enjoy Kings work, its thought provoking, emotionally engaging, deeply knowledgeable and respectful to which he pays a great amount of homage, and he tells it all in a style and voice totally his own, an insightful and unique tale of our beloved dark knight, of the likes I've never read before.
Æther - Jul 5, 2018A lot of you act like you have some sort of ownership over the batman character, and in a very pretentious manner protest you know better than others when it comes to batmans character. I imagine most of you think of batman as this flat macho male stereotype of godlike intellect. King focuses on the flaws, and more human needs of batman, nothing of which seems out of character. Besides, when you write for batman, as Grant Morrison has said, "you must write the character as if he is your own".
myconius - Jul 5, 2018then again .... it probably is very difficult for you to breath when you're so busy kissing Tom King's ass.
Talon1load - Jul 5, 2018Kings Batman hasn’t been selfless. He’s been self destructive, which isn’t necessarily out of character but the stupidity behind his behavior is. People have a right to complain about the poor handling of characters that they like. While us giving every issue a 1/10 may make us seem like haters your 10/10 makes you appear like a sycophant. Neither rating is fully genuine or helpful but they do at least average out to what may be a more accurate rating for King’s run which is a 5/10.
Dan - Jul 5, 2018Cut it out with the insults guys. You're making me regret building in review comments. I love that you're passionate about comics and want to debate the issues, but let's leave it at that.
egonnn244 - Jul 6, 2018myconius, seriously? Come on man, if you're going to write stuff like this maybe consider not writing at all.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018I can explain my 10/10 ratings, I recently started reading his Batman during issue 48. I bought the Batman deluxe edition vol 1 (sucks it has the MonsterMen issues) one day, and on the second day I bought all 5 vols of TPB's, and read them all just as fast. It might work better if you can gorge yourself reading these, I dont know. All I know it's been very enjoyable.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018It began with Batman facing his own mortality, as we are introduced to a new pair of heros who further remind him of his own humanity. Seeking justice and confronting the transient nature of his being, he puts together a team from Arkham all for an excuse to free Catwoman. Just like in Batman issue 1 from 1940, he unmasks the thief to reveal the most beautiful woman hes known, his hearts desire, and true love... "Lovely Girl, What Eyes!" He proclaimed, after purposely bumping into Robin to let h
Æther - Jul 6, 2018He then methodical plans and manipulates Bane on his own turf, leaving him broken and defeated amongst his own men. While simultaneously opening himself up to Catwoman, exposing his vulnerability and finding her faithful. Bane retaliates hastily, a man whom we are shown has struggled in such a similar fashion as the Batman. A dynamic of nature vs. nurture, and how these two boys of alike ilk were shaped into the men they became due to circumstance.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018Bane defeated, Batman let's down his guard and proposes to Catwoman. He exposes his history, his darkest secrets, his guilt, and Catwoman accepts and loves him for the man he is. They face trails and tribulations, they are separated, they face the world alone, and love prevails. Preparing for a new life together, trouble finds it's way back into thier lives, sowing seeds of doubt. Seeds of which many strings are attached, manipulated by men of dark hearts to hurt the Bat as never before... and t
Æther - Jul 6, 2018So yeah that's what I've gotten out of this story and I enjoyed every moment. He does all this while masterfully playing with the DC colorful cast of characters. I couldn't put it down, issue after issue 10/10 for me. And I still have a few issues 9/10. I find it crazy but intriguing so many can hate it with such a fervent tenacity, that's all. It's a love story for a hero we all love, told in a beautiful and meaningful way.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018My first paragraph of my explanation got cut off, but I was just comparing how Batman let Catwoman escape in his first issue with that of King cutting her loose. Hes got a weak spot :P
myconius - Jul 6, 2018egon244 - get real. if you had this troll harassing you over a difference of opinion over a cartoon book, i'd like to see how you'd like it.
myconius - Jul 6, 2018Æther has just posted 7 comments in a row on my review, and has commented over 25 comments in total. look how much he's harrassed William McKelder over his review of Batman #49. ...is that normal behavior? no! it's not! what he's doing is cyber bullying. believe me if there was a block button i'd have used it after his first condescending comment.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018I disagree with your review, complain about it. You then freak out and troll me, now you belittle an art form most of us love. It's more than just some cartoon book, it's a great story. I'm not forcing you to engage me either, and to be honest I haven't even been talking to you, I've been addressing other people... not you myconius.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018Just wanted you to expose yourself, and it looks like you did. You had a lot to say...
Æther - Jul 6, 2018Bearwitness to the man myconius the boy wonder who calls someone a nazi, ridicules them, trolls them, and then plays the victim. All I did was ask for an explanation because your review was hollow. Get over it.
Talon1load - Jul 6, 2018The story you describe does sound intriguing, the problem is that it has been so poorly executed. Batman Rebirth starts right after the New 52 ends where Batman has already faced his mortality and come out stronger. But beyond the broad strokes, the stories are just poorly done. King’s attention to detail is severely lacking. He somehow and for some reason rides the back of a plane while whining about dying. He’s been in way worse situations so that doesn’t make sense.
Talon1load - Jul 6, 2018The entire run is built around wow moments that are not executed well. So your 10/10 shows that you’re not looking at the details and you’ve already said that you don’t care about them anyway but that’s what writing is, it’s the details strung together in an interesting manner to make a coherent story. King fails to do that.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018In one of the issues Catwoman and Batman remember different dates in regards to when it was they first met. They are both right, it's just about how you look at it. I thought new 52 was a mess stirred up by Dr. Manhattan. This should be the perfect time to take some creative liberties and tell a fresh familiar story. Throughout comic history artists have picked up the works of others and spun new tales. Familiar characters, similar situations, but slightly divergent.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018These writers should have a chance, an excuse, to tell a tale of thier own, would we really want complete copycat writers? People who write in someone else's voice? Telling that other persons story? King is lifting ideas from the stories that he knows will enhance his own, catwoman stories, mostly. This is a new dream.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018Also I do care about the details, just not all of them is what I said. Trivial flaws I dont mind, the story here is too engrossing. Why so hard on the Bat, he was just pondering the quality of his death while on that plane, and maybe this time it just got him questioning the quality of his life? Kings Batman is not so invincible, I get it... I guess he's really fucked now.
myconius - Jul 6, 2018A democracy is a society in which people have a say in their government and elect their leaders. The opposite is totalitarianism: a totalitarian society is usually ruled by a dictator, and there is very little or no freedom. In totalitarianism, the government controls almost every aspect of life. There is no free speech or freedom of the press: certain religions and ideas may be banned. George Orwell's novel 1984 was a brilliant look at a world of totalitarianism.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018Yes in issue 20 like you said we see batman has already grown up. Hes overcome his parents death, hes come out stronger for it. They will always be a part of him, they have been imprinted upon his heart. He will always fight for the people of Gotham no matter. Happy or unhappy, he has greater reason to be the Batman. Catwoman got fooled into thinking she was doing the right thing, she's wants to be the selfless hero like the man she loves, she wants to do the right thing.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018A mistake, now the villains take advantage.This sort of heartbroken is new to Batman, hes opened himself up like never before, and is then rejected. This is what he truly wants above all else, a different sort of hurdle. He is vulnerable, unbalanced, and alone, a perfect opportunity for enemies, and for us to be entertained. Hes a smart guy tho, I'm sure everything will work out fine. We already know they grow old together, and he has had love, from the first to the last.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018It's cool that his story might evolve or change, taking on a different shape in time. I'm pretty sure he knows what the grand plan is, adapting with time sure. Plenty of time for things to be resolved, I wouldn't worry so much. It's like a 100 issue comic book arc lol.
Talon1load - Jul 6, 2018Dude, nothing about this is new. Batman has gone through this so many times. People keep saying this is something new when it isn’t. Hell, he purposely gave up happiness for his mission in the New 52. He also opened himself to that Ukrainian pianist who died. He’s been through shit like this with Vesper, Silver, Vicki, and so many others that there is literally nothing new to explore with this direction. He’s been left before. This is just lazy writing.
myconius - Jul 6, 2018the writing is incredibly lazy. it defies all logic and reason. especially the last panel of this comic. there were no indicators that Gotham Girl would be in league with Bane. Flashpoint Thomas Wayne being among the villains is even more ridiculous. it’s gimmick writing done solely for cheap shock value.
myconius - Jul 6, 2018Talon1load - oh yeah! the Ukrainian pianist from Batman The Dark Knight. her death definitely was telegraphed. very predictable. i recently tried re-reading 'Batman: Blind Justice'. that also had yet another disposable love interest that finds out Bruce's identity. as much as i enjoy 'Strange Apparitions' the Silver St. Cloud parts are so cringy.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018I couldn't finish new 52 Batman, not my thing. But if it had Batman giving up his happiness, then he is already the selfless Batman King started with, but this time he decides his Batman is gonna take happiness for himself, time and events have changed his thinking and drama ensues.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018So Batman has experienced romantic endeavors before, but were they this deeply involved with Catwoman? And played out to this extent? No way. This is special, look how worked up everyone is, how excited we were for this union to take place. This is not just some little heartbreak, this is Batman and Catwoman!! This is literally a 100 issue love story, this is Batmans definitive love story in my mind. We have had our own hearts broken with Batman at this juncture, it should have you engaged.
Æther - Jul 6, 2018This is all new. And anything is familiar it was likely ment to be. Try to have some fun with it, we are in the middle of an interesting sort of spiritual successor to the Banes Knightfall story. Sucks if you cant enjoy it.
Talon1load - Jul 7, 2018Their story is deeply involved though. You never really get anything that tells you how they really feel. The entire thing is built around how iconic it is but there is no depth to it. It comes off as extremely forced.
myconius - Jul 7, 2018i dunno .... i just get the feeling that we'll be seeing yet another DC reboot somewhere down the line.
Talon1load - Jul 7, 2018But your assertion that they wedding was moved to accommodate has no basis on anything other than a date.
myconius - Jul 7, 2018i don't think tom king would even worry if his story lines up with Doomsday Clock, when his own stories don't even line up with each other. in issue 49 Catwoman slashes Jokers throat, Catwoman gets shot point blank in the gut with a revolver. now in issue 50, Catwoman is walking around just perfectly fine.
myconius - Jul 7, 2018DC Stuff - well we know they definitely had one thing planned for sure. ..squeeze every last red cent out of their customers pockets.
Æther - Jul 7, 2018Let him speak for himself, start at 6:57 or around the 7 min mark. https://youtu.be/31Vd_kItfDc I'll take his word for it, it's all coming together as one big story, it would be strange if it weren't. Events from issue 1 will affect issue 103. He says it himself.
myconius - Jul 7, 2018Talon1load - but they decided "why should we stop at just milking customers? let's bamboozle the retailers as well! we'll kick them right in the teeth, and they'll thank us for it."
Æther - Jul 8, 2018I can see objectively, I just happen to disagree, and express my reasoning. I dont really care about sales numbers and so forth, I just want an entertaining story. They were getting married, lots of people say they are going to get married... and they dont. It was an event nonetheless, if you dont want to see how all the puzzle pieces fit... then stop reading.
Æther - Jul 8, 2018Not surprised corporate DC promoted and published extra matieral. That's is thier job, to make money, and they just happen to be taking advantage of Tom Kings wedding event. I think it's fun, this stuff happens in real life. People say they are going to have a wedding, all this money is involved, people spend so much time preparing, everyone waiting and watching, but no one can find the bride? Lol and you are all acting like the upset guests... it's just Banes fault.
myconius - Jul 8, 2018DC Stuff - you're speaking far too much logic & reason. the mentality of some fans is why movies like BvS was able to sell so well despite having a complete train wreck of a plot. eventually the other shoe has to drop and then a financial disaster like the Justice League movie happens. eventually followers of the hype train grow weary of all the gimmick story-telling and the comic sales will drop. it always happens. and the company will just announce another reboot. sell all new #1's.
Æther - Jul 8, 2018Myconius all you do is praise and regurgitate the ideas of whom bias you share. Tom Kings fault for BvS and Justice league? Get this non sequitur junk outta here. Also I would rather it always started at #1 when a new writer gets the job to write a character. Unless someone's previous work was left unfinished.
Talon1load - Jul 8, 2018Hey now, I really liked BvS. Don’t try to tarnish that by associating it with Tom King. Lol
myconius - Jul 8, 2018Talon1load - you're right! to be fair, i really enjoyed BvS when i saw it in the theater. i even bought the blu ray as well. but it definitely is a guilty pleasure. i can admittedly see it for all it's flaws. but as you said, it DOES NOT deserve to be lumped in with the filthy mess that is Tom King's Batman. lol
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DC has made a terrible mistake and Tom King has signed his death as "the next Alan Moore". "He is suicide".
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Dissapointment. Story Has Been building up for 20 issues, and we have very childish reason, well spoken and written, but still childish. Edit. My copy got glued, and I didn't realised how little content is here. There is about only 19 real pages. Most of it are pin, up which are really boring.
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myconius - Jul 4, 2018i mostly agree, except for the well written part. some of it got pretty cheese ball. at least some of the pins ups were nice, but nice art means nothing if the story flops.
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This needs to be returnable. DC lied to us and betrayed our trust. The same goes to King. No story can change that.
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Bwaa ha ha! Who really expected anything different? King wants to be sooo cool. I hate Tom King’s run on this series. I’m done w/ it. Thank goodness for Detective Comics.
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myconius - Jul 4, 2018Tom King writes Batman Year One fan fiction. they goober doesn't realize that Batman has come a very VERY long way since then.
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ALL THAT BUILD UP FOR THIS?!?!?!?!?! The only reason I'm not dropping this is because I'm too much of a curios/nosey person and I want to see where the last part goes.
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myconius - Jul 4, 2018well there is always just reading it off the shelf then putting it right back. xD
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Tom King blue balls the readers!
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Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Jul 4, 2018I liked this issue a lot and like Tom King, but man that is such an accurate way to put it. Lol
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Completely lied to and misled. Dropped.
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myconius - Jul 9, 2018Talon1load - exactly! taking the blame off King and placing it on Bane is delusional. Bane is a fictional character. he only does what Tom King scripts him to do.
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2 years of investment, months of hype and advertisement, tie-ins, multiple covers, midnight releases, even a friggen Spotify wedding playlist and now we’re left with a vague tweet hinting that things MIGHT work out for them in the next 50 issues As another reviewer put it, this is comics snake oil at its prime. DC Comics should be ashamed of themselves for the marketing campaign alone. King is a brilliant writer, but the fan outrage is justifiable. Instead of an amazing issue filled with character growth, happiness and an interesting paradigm shift, we get massive swerve and more of the same old “Batman can’t be Batman if he’s happy†trope. I’ve already read dozens of comics where the Bat and Cat don’t get together. Even if the next 50 issues leads to them actually tieing the knot, you’ve completely killed the magic of the event, caused sudden and asinine changes in characters (especially catwoman), and lost the trust of large chunk of the fandom. What a wasted opportunity. more
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What a waste. DC comics shit the bed hard with this one. Dear god it was bad. Batman needs a writer change ASAP. Tom King has to go. This was a slap in the face to the fans. I’m officially done wasting my money on this brutal,boring and cucked run of Batman.
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I can swim Mommy. I’m a very good swimmer.
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This issue was pure garbage. I am a HUGE Batman fan and I will be happy when Tom King is off this book. I don't really understand how DC handed him Batman to begin with. His issue have been okay up to now (nothing great, nothing horrible), but this issue was awful.
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All this lead up & tie-ins for Batman & Catwoman to ditch the wedding is complete GARBAGE
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let me get started with this, i have never been compelled to create an account and to impulsively give a feedback to one of the aspiring writers of this generation about one of my favorite character that has been part of our pop culture. case-on-point, this issue Batman #50, is an absolute disappointment. it is redundant to say that it is anticlimactic, having to have readers be subjugated to the hype of a new phase for the life of the caped crusader and just left us there hanging to a very unsatisfying ending. sad to say i wasted my money with this. the poetic writing, amazing guest's arts is not enough to pay tribute to fans who has been waiting for this character to find a new stage in his life, instead we are delivered with an abs olute failure. every superhero character is trapped in an endless loop. justified by its publishers. more
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The only good thing about Batman 50 is that it finally would seem to show that the Emperor Has No Clothes when it comes to Tom King’s run. Tom King was brilliant in The Vision saga, brilliant. However, he doesn’t seem to have a connection to Batman. His Batman run has been more cerebral than passionate. He seems to be wanting to deconstruct Batman and the genre, in a skow and uninspired way. Yes, he comes up with good gimmicks and good scenarios, but he forces these things and privileges them over character. His Batman/Bruce Wayne is unrecognizable, he comes across as a teenager of the 90s. His moral conflicts and ethical dilemmas are those of a teenager, and would make more sense in a teenage Superman. Bruce Wayne is a thirtysometh ing who has seen everything. Would he be so mortified years after because he once entertained the idea of killing someone (the awful climax of The War of Jokes and Riddles). The 48 and 49 issues had an interesting setup but Batman acting as an idiot, and the Tarantino smart absurd dialogue can be seen in the entertaining but unnecesary Catwoman Joker dialogue. I still think King could correct course, but he is prpbably too enamored of his exploration of the Batman persona. Boring. more
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If I could rate this 0, I would, this doesn't even read clearly and it feels like such a waste of time and money
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Selina Kyle: Batman cant be happy because if he's happy, then he wont be a good Batman. Every fucking Robin and Batgirl: Am I a joke to you? Seriously, this was a huge let down. This was suppose to be where Batman can grow and be a better person and evolve as a character. But no, lets just go back to the status quo. And seriously Cat and Bat dialogue is so god damn annoying. This was basically the cock-block of the entire decade. Terrible story all around.
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