How's it doing? Still pretty shitty if you care about a coherent story. For those who don't? Seems to be going along pretty well.
Batman #77
| Writer | Tom King |
| Artist | Tony Daniel |
| Cover Price | $3.99 |
"City of Bane" continues! The last of the independent villains are on the run, leaving Gotham City entirely to Bane and his cronies-including Flashpoint Batman and Gotham Girl! Though this means a semblance of peace on the streets, the iron grip of tyranny is squeezing all life out of Gotham. And with Bane's machinations keeping other heroes out, the city really needs the Batman to return. Is Bruce Wayne ready to face his toughest foes yet...his father and the man who broke his back?
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AIPT - Vishal Gullapalli
Aug 21, 2019As usual, King has written an issue that tells its own complete story within the larger narrative of the arc. The issue is an excellent character piece on Damian, Bruce, and Selina as King is putting out some of the best work of his career on this title. Daniel and Janin along with their inkers and colorists are stellar artists on this issue, bringing King's story to life in an incredible way. It's a satisfying complete product, and a meaningful step forward for the story as it heads towards its climax. Read Full Review
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9.8
The Super Powered Fancast - Deron Generally
Aug 21, 2019Mikel Janin and Tony S Daniel's art perfectly complement this story and both styles merge perfectly with the parts of the story they are telling visually. Read Full Review
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9.6
Forces Of Geek - Lenny Schwartz
Aug 21, 2019By the end of the issue, it seems like Bruce is finally ready to fight back. It's about time and it's a pretty intense moment. He looks to have Catwoman on his side. This ended up being another strong chapter in the “City of Bane” storyline. The story is good and the art is tops. Let's see where it goes from here, but I'm loving it thus far. Read Full Review
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9.3
The Brazen Bull - Charlie Chipman
Aug 21, 2019While the Bat's away, the villains will play. Being plunged deep into a Gotham City that's governed by Bane, and his enforcer, Flashpoint Batman, leaves readers eager for the Dark Knight's inevitable rise. Read Full Review
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9.2
Sequential Planet - Steven Martinez
Aug 24, 2019Batman (2016-) #77 tells two tales, with fantastic art, before culminating in a tense ending that will have people talking. A must read for fans of the series, and Batman in general. Read Full Review
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9.0
GWW - Nicola Austin
Aug 20, 2019Batman #77 is a completely gripping entry into the ‘City of Bane' narrative which fans have long been waiting for, and it definitely pays off! I honestly can't wait to see the return of the Bat and the Cat and the long-awaited showdown between Bane and Flashpoint Batman – this is now personal… Read Full Review
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9.0
Lyles Movie Files - Jeffrey Lyles
Aug 21, 2019It's going to be another big controversy for DC and the Bat books, but at least it will generate all kinds of buzz and likely sell a slew of copies. As for grading this one? It's hard because so much will depend on the next issue and possibly the one after that to see how King follows it up. That's going to be key here. Based solely on this issue, King demands readers pick up issue #78 to see how The City of Bane's next chapter plays out. Read Full Review
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9.0
Comics Bookcase - Alex Batts
Aug 21, 2019Batman #77 puts the spotlight on Damian in a stellar issue that pushes ahead with the high stakes promises made from the start of City of Bane. The art team continues to triumph, and King continues to deliver on both action and emotion. Read Full Review
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8.9
Multiversity Comics - Gustavo S Lodi
Aug 22, 2019Expertly crafted, beautifully drawn, and constructed with a clear pacing in mind, "Batman" #77 is a highlight of King's run. Read Full Review
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8.5
Geek Dad - Ray Goldfield
Aug 21, 2019Tom King is one of the biggest puzzles in comics, as his comics are often equal parts the most impressive and the most frustrating on the stands. That's the case with Batman #77, which begins with some of the best writing of King's run and ends with a gut-punch of a twist that has the potential to destroy the character's status quo if not reversed. Read Full Review
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8.5
Black Nerd Problems - Keith Reid-Cleveland
Aug 21, 2019If any of these King stories get adapted, I'm going to be bracing myself to see if they stick to this path. Because a mainstream audience won't be anymore ready than the comic book one is now. Read Full Review
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8.2
Monkeys Fighting Robots - David DeCorte
Aug 21, 2019Writer Tom King promised the climax of his monumental story would change Batman "for a generation," or more. The last few pages of BATMAN #77 might just achieve that on its own. Read Full Review
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8.1
IGN - Jesse Schedeen
Aug 21, 2019"City of Bane" finally builds steam in Batman #77, thanks to the assistance of Batman's bratty son Damian. Read Full Review
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8.0
But Why Tho? - Charlie Ashby
Aug 21, 2019Batman #77 is a shot of Venom to the arm for the main Bat-Title, providing us with a fast-paced and engaging story that delivers one of the best Damian Wayne moments in DC Canon. The only major let-down is a story development towards the end of the book which doesn't quite land the way it should. Read Full Review
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8.0
ComicBook.com - Nicole Drum
Aug 21, 2019Everything changes in this issue and, even with a shocking semi-cliffhanger, it feels like the story is truly coming together"even if it's in the darkest possible way. Read Full Review
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8.0
The Batman Universe - Paul Shanly
Aug 21, 2019This issue is either a landmark moment in the Batman mythos or a dramatic fake-out. I think Im good with either way the story wants to go, providing that the story makes meaningful use of Alfred's situation. Im looking forward to the next issue. Read Full Review
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8.0
Comic Book Revolution - Kevin Lainez
Aug 22, 2019Batman #77 is an issue that will be remembered by fans for a long time. Tom King delivered one impactful moment after another. By the time you get to the big game changer of the issue it truly felt like nothing in the Batman franchise will ever be the same again. This is definitely an issue that all Batman fans should experience reading along with the rest of the "City of Bane" storyline. Read Full Review
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8.0
Henchman-4-Hire - Sean Ian Mills
Aug 24, 2019The stakes get more serious and the tension builds as Robin takes on the City of Bane, with disastrous results! Read Full Review
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8.0
Impulse Gamer - Matt Fischer
Aug 25, 20198 issues (kind of) left to go in Tom Kings run and we are ramping up. These two week breaks are killing me like never before. Read Full Review
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8.0
Razorfine - Alan Rapp
Aug 28, 2019During the series of events the comic offers us glimpses of Bruce and Selina who appear finally ready to return to Gotham and take on Bane. They still have time to save Damian, but not poor Alfred (whose tasteless death is celebrated a bit too much in full-page glory). Despite its questionable elements, still worth a look. Read Full Review
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7.0
Newsarama - David Pepose
Aug 21, 2019With that bit of narrative flashiness out of the way, Batman #77 is a solid but flawed installment of the "City of Bane" arc " three issues in, one can feel the decompression dragging a bit, but there's still enough sparks from both the writer and his dual art teams that we may still want to see this storyline through to the bitter end. Read Full Review
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7.0
On Comics Ground - Timothy Quail
Aug 22, 2019The City of Bane continues to be an intriguing arc for Batman. The actual "City of Bane" part of the book is cool and fun. However, the other half of the book about Bruce Wayne sitting around hoping to get back to Gotham doesn't match the excitement the arc needs. Hopefully the momentum in the second plot will eventually build up enough steam to make it all come together. Read Full Review
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7.0
Dark Knight News - Eric Lee
Aug 23, 2019Batman #77's main storyline is a welcome breath of fresh air to "City of Bane"s slow plotting. However, the issue's enjoyment is dragged down by a laborious secondary plot. Read Full Review
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6.0
Weird Science - Dan Mayhoff
Aug 21, 2019The latest issue of Batman gives us some amazing art and a fairly entertaining story that progressed our storyline. However, it also gives us yet another major even that I'm sure comic fans will be arguing about for a while. I don't think this will change anybody's mind about this run though. I think that fans of Tom King will praise this issue and I think his critics will denounce it. The reality falls somewhere in the middle. Read Full Review
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6.0
Newsarama - Pierce Lydon
Aug 23, 2019This is strange issue because it feels technically proficient but tonally transient " an odd mix for a writer as intentional as King. Read Full Review
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5.5
Batman-News - Joshua McDonald
Aug 21, 2019What can I say? If you've been a fan of King's run, then you'll probably love this issue. If you're like me and haven't enjoyed his run because of his inability to properly write characters, his insistence of inserting himself into characters, and the walking depression that is his "Bruce Wayne/ Batman," then you'll dislike this issue. Yes, it has its moments and the art, as well as Damian, is great here, but that's about all I can say to support Batman #77. The "twist" at the end will definitely divide readers, and I'm willing to bet that many people will not be happy. Read Full Review
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Holy ****.
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Holy frick.....
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9.5
After reading this maybe they should have waited to give him the boot...
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A.W.E.S.O.M.E
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9.0
Well, this is going to be divisive. Let me start by saying that the art is just brilliant, seriously, it's so damn good! Anyways, this issue is divided into two parts. Most of the issue is Damian fighting his way to Thomas so he could take him down and the rest is Bruce and Selina talking to each other, trying to figure out what to do next. The issue ends with one of the most important, if not the most important thing that happened in the series so far, the death of Alfred (or maybe it's Clayface?) which raises the stakes of the story to a new height. Now I just want more, can't wait for the next issue.
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9.0
Well, I didn't expect that... one of my favourite characters :[ City of Bane raises the stakes a lot with each issue.
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The art as always is simply amazing 10/10 JanÃn and Daniel at their best. Colors are pretty good especially those used in the story of Damian and BatThomas. I expected a little more from the Bat - Cat meeting but in general I think it's fine and well ... you know ... nobody saw that coming.
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8.5
So how is Tom " Worst writer of the year" King's book doing today ? As for me, pretty good. We get great issue, focused on my favourite Robin, little Damian Wayne. We see how he tries to free Alfred from Bane by deafeting Gotham Girl and Batman. That was intense and cool, the dialogues between Thomas and Damian were fun and the resolution of the first battle was on point. We also get a focus on Bruce and Selina and it was a little weak. I get that Bruce think that it is suicide to face Bane but he seems a little too down. The issue end on a big twist but I don't buy it for the moment even if that was fucking brutal. As always haters gonna hate and fans gonna love. And it is not interesting for one of the two groups to discretize the other. more
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It's probably all a trick. Bane or Thomas probably had Psycho Pirate make Damien think he saw that. I don't think Bane has the balls to challenge Batman in that way. He had the chance to kill his sons and didn't do it. One thing I've loved about this story line of the City of Bane is the fact the Bane barely stars in it. Not that I'm complaining about that. I find the character weak and pathetic , so a story based around him that he ends up barely in makes for the best Bane story ever in my book. lol I'm confused about one thing. Didn't King say that Batman had already hit his lowest point and that starting with issue 75 he was supposed to start he's climb out of that? So killing off Alfred ( if he is in fact dead ) is what supposed t o be a high point in Bat's life? What next can we expect to see him go around singing Ding Dong The Butlers Dead? If Al is dead I'm not sure how I feel about that. I really like the character. Alfred and Catwoman are the only two characters that call Bat's out on his crap he pulls. So I'll miss the character. However on the other hand maybe now is a good time for him to be killed off. There could be a lot of good stories that could come out of that. Though I don't really think he is dead or if he is it won't be fore long since there is a story going around about another major reboot coming in 2020 starting with another Crisis story line. more
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Superheroes for Hire - Aug 22, 2019Tom King also likes to "stretch the truth" (read "lie") to his readers. So there's that...
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8.5
Full disclosure: I quit reading this current volume of Batman around issue 58 or so. I’m not a Tom King lover or hater. The only reason I dropped the book was because it wasn’t grabbing my attention anymore and because I ain’t rich, I have to be choosy about where my comic budget goes. Bought this issue because of, you know...the spoiler. Not for resale value but because I was curious. My thoughts: It was pretty good! Even though I haven’t been reading the storyline, I have been reading reviews on the past issues...so I did have an idea about what was going on. The art was great...loved that. Loved the battle between the little twerp and grandpa. Liked the story enough that I might have to go back and buy the earlier issues of the arc...and I will definitely buy the next issue to see if Bane broke his toy for good or just for paralysis sake. The only negative was one that I have with almost every current comic...it’s like a five minute read for my money. But I’m not sorry I bought it. more
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7.5
People giving this a 1 are those who are in the “I hate this run camp.†It’s ok not to like the book but to rate it a 1 is just petty. Your saying that it is literally the worst thing ever written, it’s not. It’s also not a 10 because OMG shocking event happened!!! Everything that happened with Damien made sense. No one ever helps other cities when dire things are going on and King, whether you like his reasoning or not, did give us a reason as to why there isn’t any outside help coming in. It did seem a little rushed to me, the last page was kind of forced/random. Dialogue between Damien and “grandpa†was entertaining. Possibly a must buy for collectors because of the potential event in the story.
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Talon1load - Aug 21, 2019People who rate it a run possibly just hate King and hate how poorly this comic is written and executed. People who automatically give this a 10 probably deserve just as much of your derision as the others.
BirdmanG07 - Aug 21, 2019Sure, they have every right to hate it. My point is it’s literally impossible to say that this is one of the worst comics ever written. The art is phenomenal, I think we’re all in agreement there. That alone warrants at least a 1.5. If people were giving it straight 1.5s or 2s I’d have no quarrel. But to say it’s absolute trash 1/10 is, in my opinion, just people being fed up with a book and bashing it. Everyone here has undoubtedly read something worse, it’s not an honest score.
BirdmanG07 - Aug 21, 2019It’s harder to argue against the people who put a 10 on it, they could honestly have loved the book. I would recommend some other stories to them to read widen their horizons. But it really is not a perfect book, by any means. Again, my opinion, everyone has a right to their own. I’m just asking people score it fairly and not just burn it to the ground. But if you honestly think it’s a 1 (or 10) I would question you but respect it
Superheroes for Hire - Aug 22, 2019I've never hardly seen better art, but it's hard to argue that I've read worse. I always give fair credit to the good art.
myconius - Aug 22, 2019apparently enough people hated this run to get Tom King fired off Batman before his 100th issue.
Darkseid24 - Aug 24, 2019@ Birdman G07 It’s definetly one of the worse I have ever read& I‘ve read many. I always try to be fair, but this week it was really disappointing & bad.
BirdmanG07 - Aug 26, 2019@Darkseid24 if that’s your honest opinion I can respect that. @myconius it’s been very controversial. I don’t love it but I think it’s better than what people are saying. I think they gave him too many issues to tell his story. If it was shorter with less filler I think we’d be looking at this differently. Potentially, who knows.
Superheroes for Hire - Aug 26, 2019@BirdmanG07 - I think the problem is definitely that King got too many issues to tell 1 story. I really liked maybe 2/3 of the first 50 in the run. That's because there was real plot progression for most of it, an arc for Batman and his supporting cast, and a rotating cast of villains. Then with issue 50, I wasn't even upset as much about the abandoned wedding.
Superheroes for Hire - Aug 26, 2019What really outraged me was that Tom King and DC said with issue 50 that I'd completely wasted my time and money on 50 issues that were ALL part of one big story arc that was only half over. In my judgement, any payoff after 100 issues of Bat-Cat-Bane was 50 issues too late. It all boils down to Tom King saying Batman can't be happy, Bane will make his life hell, and Batman will save the day by punching people. That's 1 to 6 issues of story spread to 100.
BirdmanG07 - Aug 26, 2019@Superheroes for Hire I was talking about it with my buddy, too. We looked back at the books and said, that could’ve been shorter, this wasn’t really needed. That dragged out a little long. Etc. I agree with you. I think he bit off a little more than he could chew. I’ve loved stuff by King but for his style I don’t know if the 100 issue route can work, regardless of the character. Not saying it’s a bad thing, just his style.
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I mean, there are some very good parts as Thomas vs Damian or Bane killing Alfred. But there's also that thing with the villains looking like a parody and Bruce and Selina always flirting and not doing much else.
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Actually wanted to test to see if I rated a 1 would I get an automatic like from Darkseid24 and the other ppl who auto rate Tom king Batman 3 or lower. Jokes aside, the reality is the run is fine, it's nothing special or amazing, but since Batman is so huge and ppl have put some of their personality in it, ppl tend to act irrationally. This issue is better than the last since something actually happened, however, the spoiler twist that I won't talk about feels a little sudden considering Thomas had no animosity towards this character, earlier they were talking cordially. If it's permanent then it'll definitely be divisive, but a 1? No, it's like a review above states, just somewhere in the middle, which is what this whole run feels like. Amazing art most of the time, started off with a lot of promise, but doesn't stick the landing plot wise. Still not as bad as ppl are saying, I definitely think the run reads a lot better in trades or collected editions. I hope king ends his run well with Bat/Cat since it is frustrating that he can put out amazing hits like Mister Miracle, Vision, Omega Men, but then do stuff like Heroes in Crisis and an average Batman run more
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Darkseid24 - Aug 21, 2019I gave very good reasons in my own review, why it is so bad& why it only deserves 1 star. I also don’t always give King such a low rating, only if he deserves it. So stop acting like these problems with his run wouldnt exist& that fans are just senselessly hating on him. I could say the same about people giving him a 10 every time without giving any reasons& ignoring every problem.
allenquanobi - Aug 21, 2019I agree with the 10 part. But a 1 overall? lol theres a lot more than just Tom King in the comic, there's art, there's ink, there's color, etc... A 1 would imply every single thing is bad about this comic
Darkseid24 - Aug 21, 2019Yes the art is great, but I mostly concentrate on the story & character portrayal. The nicest art doesnt help much, if the story is just badly written& characters are out of character. I wouldnt know anything good about this issue& if I could I gave it 0 points. I defended King in the past, but there is nothing I can defend about his writing anymore. He constantly creates new problems without solving the old ones ( like awful dialogue).
allenquanobi - Aug 21, 2019to each their own i guess. i know theres a lot that goes into each and every book, so i cant rlly get how this would get a 3 or below. The frank miller superman is a series that id give a 3 rn, art and story are both bad. but agree to disagree i guess
Darkseid24 - Aug 22, 2019But what is good about it? There are so many plotholes, bad dialogue, inconsistent storyrelling, characters are out of character, I really don’t know how it could get a mediocre or good rating. At least the dialogue isnt so bad in Millers Superman, but if you like Kings Comics go ahead.
allenquanobi - Aug 22, 2019i said it was average lol like a lot in the original review. I never said it was good. Average is a C in normal grades. everything in the issue was pretty set up, except for the twist which i said was a little sudden, but it could possibly be a scarecrow fear toxin situation, so who knows. This arc definitely isn't as bad as his knightmares arc which was pretty bad, that i would give a 5 or below. Frank Millers superman just doesnt hit any of the right notes for me at all.
Nihilist - Aug 22, 2019Oh, Knightmares was unbearable, I want to forget that filth. This, though... only few more issues to go, breath in, breath out, calm down... With all seriousness, though, did DC announce who's going to take over the series after King is finally out?
allenquanobi - Aug 22, 2019Nah, it starts in January, and solicitations for January don't come out until october/november at least. So maybe next month we'll get an announcement as a lead in, or we will get one at nycc
myconius - Aug 22, 2019i will just say this- Tom King didn't get fired off Batman before his 100th issue just for the hell of it. there are a lot of damn good reasons. the guy had no business ever writing Batman. DiDio is a moron for sticking King on their biggest seller.
Darkseid24 - Aug 22, 2019You can’t solve everything with Scarecrow’s fear gas lol But yes it could be. Honestly I think this is even worse than the Knightmare arc. At last nobody was killed/ wounded there. His first issues were mediocre to me, it turned really bad during Knightmare, then to total trash during the desert & City of Bane storyline. I hope there will be a better writer.
myconius - Aug 22, 2019the first 30 issues are wildly overrated. didn't Batman get his throat slashed by a crackhead in issue 15? and he was crying like a Baby in issue #1. Nightwing, Red Hood and Damian all got hung by their necks in the bat-cave, but weren't dead. no. this run was never good.
Nihilist - Aug 22, 2019I'm a sucker for his 3 first arcs, honestly. I liked them, they've set up some solid plot elements. Too bad it was now all wasted, practically. Think of a J.J. Abrams movie - starts out great, you have million questions, and then it ends and it sucks, because Abrams wrote the questions, but never bothered to answer half of them.
myconius - Aug 23, 2019if i were to compare Tom King to a film maker, i'd say he's Zack Snyder meets Michael Bay meets Joel Schumacher. ...when Batman was crying as he was about to crash that airplane in issue 1, you just KNOW he had rubber nipples on his bat-suit!!! ...he was probably squeezing them while he was crying.
allenquanobi - Aug 23, 2019@Nihlist which is why I'm saying the run is just average, not like the worst shit I've ever read, it's just hit and miss.
Darkseid24 - Aug 24, 2019@ myconius Nah that is an insult for them. Michael Bay‘s Texas Chainsaw Massacre was great, I love BvS& Watchmen by Snyder& Schumacher did Phantom of The Opera & I love that movie as well. I think Kings Penguin story wasnt that bad (apart from Penguin having sex with an animal)
Talon1load - Aug 24, 2019I think King's run is one of the worst I've ever read. I think it is FAR below average. He's been paired with great artists but that's literally the only thing he's had going for him. I tried to like this run. I really did but issue one was terrible and it just never got better. He just kept writing terrible dialogue and missing or dropping plots left and right. I can't stand how inept and constantly depressed Batman has become. It is ridiculous.
Talon1load - Aug 24, 2019Hell, he's had his back broken multiple times in this run and it NEVER has any sort of affect outside of the issue. In Knightfall he took about a year to recover. Here, he's good in the next panel. King is the, IMO, worst and most overrated writer at DC.
Nihilist - Aug 24, 2019I wouldn't have a problem with him being depressed, personally. I have a problem with him not seeming to have any emotions but anger whatsoever, though. He's become a one dimensional cliche. Notice how Bruce Wayne almost doesn't exist in his comics, and Batman is always grumpy, rarely speaks anything, and there's no chemistry between him and any other character. Not the villains, not the allies, not his family and loved ones. This run feels so emotionless these days.
Psycamorean - Aug 24, 2019Also, Tom King is leaving Batman early to have more time to work on DC movies. Which shows how invested he is in this sprawling epic of his.
allenquanobi - Aug 25, 2019@YourGreenMuse finally someone who says BvS sucks lol felt like i was living on bizarro world for a second
Talon1load - Aug 25, 2019What does him leaving Batman and going to movies have to do with this “sprawling epic†you speak of? He’s a shitty comic writer. Maybe he’ll do better at comics. Especially since he won’t be writing that alone. It still has nothing to do with them pulling him early. He wouldn’t or couldn’t align his story with what DC wanted so they pulled him. Pretty simple.
allenquanobi - Aug 25, 2019I mean mister miracle, vision, Omega men,and sherriff are all really well done. Grayson was good. Ppl seem to only remember heroes in crisis and Batman here lol... Of course I know ppl will respond rn with all of these are overrated. But you know there's something called opinions, and that's just one I have and I'm sure most people have cuz they're both highly rated on this site and on most sites.
Talon1load - Aug 25, 2019Omega Men was complete shit. I tried Grayson but just couldn't get into it. Mister Miracle was just stupid. I never tried Vision but Sherriff was okay. Sherriff played to his strengths. It was a subject he actually understood and characters that he created. He does a really bad job of writing characters with previously established histories. He's just not a good writer. IMO
Psycamorean - Aug 25, 2019Tom King was "let go" after a reportedly good meeting with WB and AT&T. He wasn't let go. He's still going to get to tell his vision. Tom King pursued the movies and took a Batman/Catwoman miniseries to finish out his run to keep from overworking himself. I was saying that that shows how much he cares about his Batman run, that he accepts a truncated version in a B-title because he can make more money writing a movie. This was wholly his decision.
Talon1load - Aug 25, 2019He got Batman/Catwoman because they threw him a bone. It was most definitely not “wholly his decision “. That’s a stupid statement to even make.
Darkseid24 - Aug 25, 2019People liking Mister Miracle mostly has to do with the fact, that not many people have read The New Gods. If you have read all New Gods Comics you realize how awful Kings story was. He wrote Darkseid as a total idiot& The end made zero sense. How can people defend that? Kings dialogue is the worse I have ever read in a Comic.It sounds like a 4 year old has written it.
Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Aug 25, 2019So much misinformation. The only people who believe Tom King is fired are the ones who want to. It was revealed by several people at DC that something big is happening in 2021 (Jim Lee, Tom King, Bendis, Williamson have all mentioned it) and Tom says his Batman run was supposed to sync up with that at issue 100, but it was getting there too quickly. So DC and Tom had a mutual agreement to give him a monthly title since it would sync things up more and also give Tom more time with his movie work.
Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Aug 25, 2019He got the mini because DC hopes Tom King Batman fans will follow them there and they also hope to sell just as many Batman comics as the bi-weekly format. So there are two monthly titles.
Nihilist - Aug 25, 2019Sales dropped and more people criticized King, so DC pulled the plug. He got extra series with Bats and Catwoman afterwards, because it won't be risky to them. Its sales won't be comparable to regular series, otherwords Detective Comics would be a top seller every month. It's a safe choice for DC.
Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Aug 25, 2019That was the speculation aka misinformation that spread from Comicsgate and other YouTubers who want that to be the case, but I am using interviews and not speculation. DC also would have known sales would pick up after City of Bane (and they have so far, #77 had a second printing before it even hit shelves)
Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Aug 25, 2019There was an unconfirmed rumour that Bob Harras hates Tom King's run though. He is the top of the pecking order at DC if I understand their job titles correctly, which I don't since Dan and Jim seem to do his job for him.
myconius - Aug 25, 2019if Tom King wanted to pursue a movie career you'd think that would have been announced BEFORE him getting let go from Batman. ...the Batman/Catwoman mini-series would have been announced simultaneously when it was said he was leaving the Batman title. ...he was fired due to dropping sales. DC comics is downsizing. they know they can't have this idiot writing what should be their best selling title anymore. they screwed up royally. now they have to fix the problem.
Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Aug 25, 2019It is true they are downsizing, someone anonymous said to be surprised which contracts will expire the next time they run up. That pretty much to me sounds like it must be Tom King, Brian Bendis, or Scott Snyder.
Darkseid24 - Aug 25, 2019I want King to be fired, but he wasn’t really fired. However I think DC might have realized that many hate his Batman run. A Catwoman/ Batman mini series doesn’t get so much attention like the Batman title. I wish a good writer takes over. Not someone worse than King.
Talon1load - Aug 25, 2019Yeah, lots of people get pulled from the top title because they are doing a good job. Happens all the time. Completely logical.
ohhaimark - Aug 25, 2019@Darkseid24- I'm curious to see who you think would be a good writer to take over Batman. I personally have gotten so sick and tired of King, I'd be happy to see anyone take over.
Psycamorean - Aug 25, 2019I don't think DC actually cares about the quality of the work. That's why they gave Bendis the Superman titles. Or why they drove Rucka away from Wonder Woman.
Nihilist - Aug 25, 2019Nah, I'd like to believe they'll keep Snyder. His post New-52 Batman work has been really celebrated, and he's been consistently good. From Justice League, through Dark Nights Metal, to Last Knight on Earth, he seems to be doing great. I wonder, who could take over King, though... Him? Morrison? Murphy? Very maybe Priest?
Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Aug 25, 2019I would like a Christopher Priest run on Batman, but like Tom King, I don't think his writing is for everyone. I think people would turn on his run pretty quickly.
Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Aug 25, 2019Snyder has said he is done with Batman after Last Knight on Earth, but pretty sure there is already another Batman project of his that was previewed lol. I would like Tom Taylor or Jeff Lemire maybe. I don't even know what a Jeff Lemire Batman would be... but he killed it with Green Arrow starting with #17 of New 52.
ohhaimark - Aug 26, 2019@Br'er Lapin- A Jeff Lemire Batman would be awesome, especially if Sorrentino illustrates some issues. Tom Taylor certainly proved himself with that annual as well. I agree, Priest is not for everyone, myself included. I've tried reading his work, his style just doesn't click with me. I don't know about Snyder, he's more hit or miss for me, Morrison's always great, I'd love to see him return to the title. I think Murphy works best with out-of-continuity titles.
Talon1load - Aug 26, 2019Tom Taylor would be my number 1 vote but I believe he already said he wasn't the next guy.
Psycamorean - Aug 26, 2019I only don't want Tom Taylor on the title because he's doing great stuff with Spider-Man atm and I'd rather not have that be cut short for Batman.
Talon1load - Aug 26, 2019I do love his Spider-Man. I completely agree with you there. I would love for him to get a chance at Batman at some point though.
Darkseid24 - Aug 26, 2019@Ohhaimark Doug Moench would be my first Choice, but I doubt DC brings him back, so Manning would be great or Tom Taylor ( but only if he doesnt kill anyone this time). Hopefully not Johns or Morrison.
myconius - Aug 28, 2019i'd love to read more Morrison Batman. but he said after GL that he's done with Monthly comics. he'll probably stick with Graphic Novel format books like Arkham Asylum II that's supposed to come out one of these decades.
Kreniigh - Sep 9, 2019I think I'm going to miss reading these reviews when King's run is over. I was about to post something to the effect that it's impressive that so many people feel so passionately about the character that an average/flawed run can inspire such a strong negative reaction. But you pretty much said it for me.
allenquanobi - Sep 9, 2019@Kreniigh i think it's insane lol, similar to how people lost their minds over the last jedi. If it isn't amazing its awful, it's like a middle ground doesn't exist for popular properties
allenquanobi - Sep 9, 2019It's literally a matter of opinion. That's yours and you can think that, so it's ok, but don't say it like it's a fact lol
Talon1load - Sep 9, 2019Get off your high horse. Did I say it was a fact? Any statement that I make, where I don’t clearly state something is a fact is by default my opinion.
myconius - Sep 11, 2019that's pretty hysterical that you would compare Tom King's Batman to the Last Jedi. very very interesting. so does this mean that we'll see Batman milking a sea cow?
allenquanobi - Sep 11, 2019I meant figuratively about the reaction to it, not the plot. I'll try to be more specific and detailed, so you can understand next time I comment.
myconius - Sep 11, 2019i meant it's interesting that you mention both subject matter. goes a long way in showing that you have very "unique" tastes in entertainment.
myconius - Sep 11, 2019and i stand by my statement about Tom King having Bruce milking a sea cow. though with King, Bruce will probably end up milking Naked Bane.
allenquanobi - Sep 11, 2019Unique? I just like what I like. I've liked Star Wars for a long time and I've liked comics for a long time too. I imagine most of us on the site are like that too.
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6.5
Well.... this is going be a divisive issue and whilst my points and score may not match up, it is what I believe the issue deserves. No more delaying let's get into it The Good: The art. God, this is both Tony Daniel and Mikel Janin at their A-game. If only they were given a better story. Interactions between Damian and most other people. Lacks a bit with Gotham Girl but otherwise good showing of Damian and his thoughts on Thomas, Bane and Alfred. The Bad: Your typical King-isms we've learnt to expect from this run. Gotham Girl is still questionable and repeats to herself. Where did Damian learn magic? Not important apparently. Gotham in danger? Time for some shopping! You know, the normal stuff from King's run. Alfre d... well what happens to him. Maybe it's due to everything that has happened in this run but what should be such an emotional moment and is played out as one just... doesn't do anything for me. Also, we know he'll be back anyway this is comic books we're talking about. Just shock value which King seems to love doing in his recent works. Conclusion: Brilliant art and some good character writing wasted with the normal plagues this run has created. When I can just tie up the problems into one statement as "typical King-isms we've learnt to expect", it's a sign your book isn't doing so well. All I hope this reads better in the trade but at this rate who knows or even cares enough for that? more
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5.5
Double the artists, minus a point on art. Minus another point for Bruce and Selina sitting in a cafe in Paris like the end of Dark Knight Rises. Minus a half point for Bruce looking up in that scene and saying sincerely "It will be... A good death." Minus another point for this stupid, contrived story where timing irrelevant. Catwoman takes Batman to Paris all while the U.S. government watches Gotham fall and Batman sleeps??? And just as Batman wakes and has coffee, Damian dares enter Gotham??? And then Tom King writes a scene where Bruce's alternate timeline father (still never explained why he's a villain now) watches bane "murder" Alfred Pennyworth??? Actually minus two points for that garbage. Plus 4 points for good quality art. Plus on e and a half points for moving the plot forward. more
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5.5
King continuing to nosedive. Daniel’s art being the saving grace even tho they cut most of it for M.J.’s vastly lesser pencils
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5.0
"Put your hands above your head... and die" Damian really is his father's son. Just like his dad he loves to sucker punch people in the face. Mikel Janin became a master in drawing those punch-panels. But let's get down to business. The issue has some redeeming qualities, but overall it gets a resounding "MEH". The art is great. Both Janin and Daniel are at the height of their powers. Ok, Janin might be a step or two higher. The idea of villains being reeducated and serving as "peacekeepers" in Gotham still seems to me as an awesome idea. The scene with the dog leash was just so dark and twisted. And I liked the portrayal of Damian. His apparent disregard for Alfred's wellbeing aside, I think he was shown well. His huge arroganc e, confidence in his skills and his overconfidence and the horror in his face when he realized that he might have f*cked up big time. As for the rest. Just like in the previous issue Gotham Girl is terrible. Her dialogue is just the worst and, honestly, I just really don't like her. Staying on the subject of dialogue. Catwoman's lines. Why she seems to only speak in more or less compounded, declarative sentences? She sounds like a robot. As for the ending, I don't know what to think about that ending. A scene like that could have been immensely impactful and soul-crushing. But it lacked a proper build-up and some solid set up. It ended up feeling sudden and rushed, like it was dropped into the issue at a last-second, to add some shocking scene for the ending. Anyway, I call bulls*it on that scene. I'm tired of Tom King's Batman. more
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4.5
Meh. It probably says a lot about this run that when something as big as this happens, I don't care. I don't get excited at the possibilities. I don't get sad because something bad happened. I don't even give it more than the half a second it took to read. I just move on, unchanged. The dialogue in this issue is the worst when it's Bruce and Selina. They don't talk like people do. And that wouldn't necessarily be a problem in certain stories, but in this one where we're supposed to connect with this *very human* relationship, it's bad. I thought this issue had a nice set up, at least. I can buy the idea that Damian would go into Gotham against better judgment. I mean, Damian's always been a shithead. It's just not well executed. It doesn't have the proper build up. If earlier issues weren't just a compilation of stories and ideas, but rather one throughline narrative, maybe this could've been given more weight. I just don't care about any of this anymore. I'm not angry, I'm not disappointed, I'm just apathetic. more
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4.0
I love Tony Daniel’s art and Damian’s greatly portrayed, that said, City of Bane is just “Knightfall 2.0â€. A lesser “Knightfall†at that, doubt the “twist†will stick but for a climactic arc this is underwhelming so far.
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4.0
I wish I felt worse.
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3.5
King continues to overexpose filler, while forgetting to give important scenes enough attention. I can't ditch the impression if feels like an elseworld story, which is not restricted by stiff continuity rules. What other explanation for absence of, let's say, Superman taking over, or Suicide Squad infiltrating the city, is there? And I get it - story doesn't always have to follow and consider everything, but I would at least expect some semi comptent explenations of what, how and why. And speaking of elseworld tales, that's not the first time Alfred died - remember The Dark Knight Returns or Batman White Knight? In the first, he dies with the Wayne manor. In the latter, he sacrifices himself to save Bruce's life, also setting him up for a redemption arc. Here, he is just cannon fodder, really. Maybe I'm just so bored and tired of King's Batman I stopped to give a shit about anything in his comics, but I don't feel this scene had any real weigth. It was all style, no substance. Similarly to how Bane hung all the Robins in one of the first arcs. Yeah, cool looking panel, but is it going to impact the story in real, meaningful way? Seeing King's previous issues, I have doubts. After all, the only massive change the series did, was renaming Nightwing to Ric - something everyone and their mothers hate with passion. You know, there's clearly something wrong when a death of a main character made lesser impression on me than Damian showing Gotham Girl his tiny wand. more
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New Holonet - Aug 21, 2019Have you read last issue? Knig gave us explanation of heroes' absence. Captain Atom have tried to invade, but he was beaten by Ghotam Girl. Ghotam Girl one of the most powerful characters in Dc Universe, her brother could defeat All Justice League.
Darkseid24 - Aug 21, 2019She suddenly is one of the most powerful characters, but it was stated a few months ago, that she would die, if she used her powers again/ too much. And she would stand no chance against Superman or other JL members. So bad excuse.
New Holonet - Aug 21, 2019Her brother defeat all JL, and she didn't use her abilities very much. And also goverment denied invasion in Gotham, because of this supeheroes dont's take part in this storym
Nihilist - Aug 21, 2019It indeed is. Justice League must be like "yeah, let them have Gotham since they've beaten up a powerful D lister". It's not like they have sorcerers, a dead guy able to hijack people's bodies, or several telepaths. Not even starting with Waller, who is ten times more ruthless and willing to cross the line. But okay, the story required Bane to control the city, so fine, I won't complain about it, even if it really is nonsensical. It sucks anyways, as most of the run,with or without logic behind.
New Holonet - Aug 21, 2019You said you wnt explanation, here it is, but you undatisfied anyway. You wrote that we don't have explanation, but when you see your mistake tou say, that you don't like explanation. Thus you show, that you just don't like King. And also I want to remind that heroes are busy in their ongoings. But this is stupid anyway. Heroes rarely take part in each other important story arc, becuase this wouldn't make sense. Always, when hero has problem, he can call JL and all wil end.
Darkseid24 - Aug 21, 2019It was in one of Kings stories where it was stated, that Gotham Girl would die, if she used more of her power. So no it doesnt make any sense. The other super heros stay away from Gotham as long as it is Under Bruces control, but it isnt, so yes Superman would interfere& do something.
New Holonet - Aug 21, 2019Gotham girl didn't use full range of her power, so she doesn't die. And again, super heroes can't break the law.
Nihilist - Aug 21, 2019Super heroes are the definition o breaking the law. They are vigilantes. As for the explanation, you bet I'm unsatisfied, because it's illogical. Even Everyone Loves Ivy made more sense, since at least she had control over every being on the planet. It was stupid, and the arc was trash, but at least it didn't try to pretend there's no other heroes who would do something, especially when Bat's MIA, because the plot demands Gotham to be abandoned by all the good guys.
Darkseid24 - Aug 21, 2019It was stated, that she would die, if she continued to use her power NOT if she uses her full power. And Superman wouldn’t care, if people’s life are in danger. It’s just illogical.
New Holonet - Aug 21, 2019Yeah, Superman break the law even when people die. He interfere in every civil war in every country and he doesn't care about jurisdiction and that after his leaveing conflict will happen again. Doomsday is raging in desert, or who cares? In Central-City curtain burn and because of this peaple can die.
myconius - Aug 21, 2019tom king's writing ability is pretty good evidence that he probably has Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder.
Talon1load - Aug 21, 2019First, she used her powers to help beat her brother so if he could beat the Justice League, she'd have to tap pretty deep to help beat him. Second, she used them against Batman and Flash recently quite a bit. Now she's using them all the time. Yeah, she should probably be dead by now. King makes little to no sense ever. No one coming to save Gotham from being taken over by villains makes ZERO sense. The government and/or the heroes would not allow an entire city to suffer just because.
Talon1load - Aug 21, 2019Hell, Damian took Gotham Girl down without even breaking a sweat. Do you honestly think the Justice League couldn't do the same thing? People do hate Tom King and it's because he is a shitty, nonsensical writer.
RBL - Aug 22, 2019I am not fond of you Drkseid4 or whatever, but I agree with your view of this thing. It’s bad.
New Holonet - Aug 24, 2019If Gotham Girl uses not full range of her powers, she won't die. Superman can beat Batman and Flash in fair fight, and Gotham Girl have very similar abilities with superman. And also I want to point your attention to the fact that magic was weakness yet in the Silver Age, and maybe even in Golden (I haven't read very much comics about Superman from Earth-Two). And you even didn't tried to argue with my last statement. You just supported each other in your hatred.
Nihilist - Aug 25, 2019Citation needed, regarding "she won't die unless she uses full range of her powers", because if memory serves me correct, Claire clearly states her powers drain her life energy. The more she uses them, the sooner she'll die. Unless King contradicted that later on, and you can provide a direct quote. Now, I don't think comparison with Superman is fair. He's a Kryptonian, after all. She may indeed share some powers with him, maybe her powers were created partially from his DNA, that we don't know.
Nihilist - Aug 25, 2019However, we also do not know if she shares any weaknesses with him, in this case magic. If she's vulnerable to it, fine, I don't mind it. I mind, however, a clear deus ex machina Damian's wand was. It was in the comic, because it was convenient. Surprise! It's literally like the infamous shark repellent. That's my problem. I don't hate the comic, and emotions don't blind me. I just see what for what it is.
RBL - Aug 25, 2019Captain Atom should have been able to wipe the floor with Gotham Girl easily, she’s human so she’s susceptible to his radioactivity. King clearly stated that if he uses her powers at “Superman-level†she would die within days if not minutes. How much life it drains is directly proportional to how potent the abilities are. She uses the full extent of her powers, she dies. Superman being susceptible to magic is still canon. You’re talking out of your ass holonet.
Darkseid24 - Aug 25, 2019I don’t think King knows how powerful Captain Atom is. He would let Gotham Girl or Harley beat Dr. Manhatten with one punch, simply because he doesnt care about these things.
myconius - Aug 25, 2019Nihilist - Yes! you are right. that is how they explained Gotham Girl's powers draining her life force. all the sudden that gets forgotten about. Talon1load - hahahaha! good one! Darkseid24 - good point. wasn't Dr Manhattan an analog created to substitute Captain Atom? so why is one a God and the other Gotham Girl's punching bag?
Darkseid24 - Aug 25, 2019Yes Captain Atom was, but he doesn’t get any respect, since he wasn’t created by Moore. Imagine King doing a Watchmen comic. That happens in hell lol
myconius - Aug 25, 2019DC needs to just stick Tom King writing a damn Kite Man title and be done with him already.
New Holonet - Aug 27, 2019Yeah, Tom King is the worst author. Because of this he won Eisner Award twice. I don't want to argue because it's pointless. If you like Tomasi's Batman, you are lost to this world. If not, you are not so hopeless and maybe one you can understand King's Batman.
RBL - Aug 27, 2019You mean the Batman & Robin run that contains a silent issue widely regarded as a masterpiece? Yeah, how dare people like that.
Talon1load - Aug 27, 2019The Eisners are voted on by their people in the industry. Soooo, his friends? I put ZERO credence in those. Maybe if they were voted on by friends. And Tomasi’s Batman was light years ahead of anything King has done.
Darkseid24 - Aug 27, 2019I‘m not a fan of Everything Tomasi wrote, but he definetly is a better writer than King. Kings run isnt a masterpiece or deep writing, it’s more like fanfiction made canon.
Nihilist - Aug 27, 2019Lol, if your only line of defense is "you like X, therefore you can't comprehend the greatness of Y", then I guess you're the one lost to the world, mate. And Eisners, come on, be better than that! They are industry awards. FFS, Squirrel Girl won one! It's a circlejerk, like Nobels, with Kissinger or Obama, or Oscars with Black Panther and Dances With Wolves. Awards don't have to reflect the quality.
myconius - Aug 28, 2019Nihilist - excellent point about awards and nominations. all the are is an ass kissing contest. as you said "a circlejerk".
Nihilist - Aug 28, 2019Thank you. Also, I forgot to mention another mess that is Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which still didn't award Maiden, Priest or Alice in Chains. But hey, N.W.A and Bon Jovi were inducted. Don't ever trust awards, they are as subjectively given out as we write reviews. We do them pro bono, though, so one good thing, nobody bought us.
myconius - Aug 28, 2019yes Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is definitely some BULL$#&%!! Bon Jovi isn't even a pimple on Priest, Maiden or AiC's ass! ...and speaking of music, Grammy awards are BS too. i don't know if you recall many years ago Metallica was nominated for their song 'One' off of ...And Justice For All. -and the damn award went to Jethro Tull of all bands!!! they aren't even metal!! - that right there just proves how worthless an award is. it's all corrupt. bunch of sleaze buckets in bed with one another.
Nihilist - Aug 28, 2019Yeah, I've heard about the Jethro Tull fiasco. It's just laughable. And even worse, heavy metal music is still, to this day, either omitted from all these popularity contests, or classified in the same basket as rock. It's all futile and fake.
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3.5
The art is fantastic. I don't deny that. King has always had really good writers. I'm convinced that half the reason he's been as successful as he has been. It certainly can't be for his writing skills because the man has none. Let's see, some quick "highlights" Gotham Girl has become an overpowered Harley because that's exactly how she sounds. Annoying as shit. How has she not died from her powers yet? Or is that another plot point that King has forgotten. When are she and Duke supposed to fall in love? Does King remember who Duke is? Damian suddenly knows how to use magic because...reasons that will never be explained. The 13 year old Robin also easily took out the one person who was supposed to be preventing every other hero i n the world at bay. Hmmmm, if only the Justice League would have thought of magic. Maybe they should meet some people who use magic and make a team of those guys. They could be called Justice League Dark or something like that. Just a thought. What else, oh Thomas forgot he had a grandson even though he knew about him in the Button I believe. This isn't as hard to believe because King forgot that Batman had a son throughout most of this run. Thomas is also the absolute worst father and grandfather around but we don't know why still since this is a 180 degree difference from his previous iterations where he was willing to sacrifice his entire world for his son. Bane appears to be on venom again but who knows if this is real or not. The same goes for the shocking death of Alfred. Oh shit, I almost forgot, because it had so little effect, Bruce and Selina are hanging out in Paris for no reason at all. Bruce is recovering from having his throat slit which he has spent more time doing than he did any of the times his back has been broken during this run. I actually didn't have a problem with Damian entering Gotham. I have more of an issue with him being the ONLY one who has done it. The idea that all of the heroes and the government would leave an entire city full of civilians to be terrorized by Bane and his minions is just too much. It's idiotic. Also, for the city of Bane, there is surprisingly very little Bane. Lots of Flashpoint Batman but not really Bane. Maybe King misnamed the entire storyline? It wouldn't even be the biggest screwup he's had on this run. Bottom line, the art continues to be great while the story still makes no damn sense and is written by an overpaid fanboy. more
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3.0
Just more of the same shit. Everyone sounds like a robot. Batman and Catwoman's dialogue is absolutely laughable to the point that I question whether Tom King knows what he's doing. But then I remember that if you go back to all his other books; the dialogue is exactly the same! Tom King is a legit hack who tries to be profound but just comes across as the storytelling equivalent of something I could have written in elementary school. Damian sucks. Thomas Wayne sucks. The Alfred scene is just a gotcha moment that will be explained in the coming issues. There's no way that DC is going to let King kill Alfred after the one-two punch that was HIC + The Wedding. The art is the only redeeming quality about this book (though I do prefer Daniels over Janin). more
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myconius - Aug 22, 2019Just more of the same shit ... just more chewed corn and maggots than usual.
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2.5
Let me catch you up. Damian ignores dire warnings and gets his ass handed to him by Old Batman. Bane Kills Alfred as a warning to all other Bat family members. They have Damian and they'll do the same to him if they come to Gotham. I really hope they storm Gotham and Damian gets his head crushed. Meanwhile, in Paris, Selina is with Bruce. Bruce says he's going back to Gotham to die a good death like Mom and Dad. Selina says not without me. Gotham's my city too. She says "You don't see me". Now you're caught up. What I liked. The art was good. Kudos. What I didn't like. The decompression. It took me two paragraphs to describe this story. I guess we're supposed to get a sense of like father, like son. The Wayne boys are stubborn and won't quit, whether for good or evil, I guess. King is still not writing Selina like an actual character - someone with her own voice, her own view, her own spark of divine fire. King has said he's writing the Bruce-Selina romance to honor his wife. But now I really wonder about their marriage. It's not Bruce who doesn't see Selina, it's King. He has almost always written her as a prize to be won and not as an actual person. He also writes Bruce like a weird child with overwhelming mommy and daddy issues, someone who is really an incredibly damaged person who is incomplete and destructive to himself and his city. I know this is the way writers write Bruce now, but I prefer the person who is the smartest guy in the room who dresses up as a bat for strategic purposes and who is motivated to make Gotham a better place because he actually wants to help people, and not just work out parent issues as obvious as the ones Mike Meyers made fun of in the third Austin Powers movie. But that's me. I could be wrong. But overall, an issue that stretches out three pages of stuff into an entire issue. I'm not impressed. more
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Quinn - Aug 21, 2019The execution is poor. By keeping Alfred a secret, there is no building of suspense. Instead of intense nervousness, we get a huh? The death won’t stick. Or I could be wrong.
Nihilist - Aug 22, 2019Precisely. As often with King, it's shock for the sake of shock. Hope the next writer will retcon his crap.
myconius - Aug 22, 2019don't worry. writers like Peter Tomasi have had to clean up after worse messes than this. Batman will be on another mission to some other supernatural world to resurrect Alfred. ....everything Tom King does just feels like a cheep gag. who the hell actually falls for this crap?
Darkseid24 - Aug 22, 2019Or it gets ignored. I mean Kings run doesn’t fit at all with Year of the Villains,Alfred is alive in Doomsday Clock& Detective Comics also ignores it. With a better writer it could have been a great story, but King isn’t talented enough.
myconius - Aug 22, 2019With a better writer it was a great story. it was called Knightfall by Chuck Dixon. a real comic writer. not this fly-by-night shoemaker.
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2.0
Alfred is frigged. Also Waynes are pathology.
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1.5
So like, i guess that damian can just use magic now? i think there should be a rule like "do not ever make one of the bat family members use magic", but whatever. establishing the massive treat gotham girl is was a big waste of time, cool. all the dialogue between Bruce and Selina was trash, like, really forced really unnatural. It almost felt like King is just coping Dark knight rises in a way(also, if bruce is going to accept help why he can't just call the justice league or something?) I know damian is arrogant but c'mon. Also, ah, spoilers i guess, alfred dies? who cares? Or this is going to be a dream or the rumors are true and DC is going to reboot next year And, when we're going to get a explanation about how city of bane "works"? like, how bane did take over? 1,5 because the art, for the most part, was good more
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Nihilist - Aug 21, 2019Gotham Girl was generally wasted in this run. After her initial set-up, the only comic with her, where she was relevant, was the econd Bats/Flash crossover, made literally out of scraps. King should have focused more on her, and show how powerful she is. Instead, we get this anticlimactic mess.
SnakeWilson - Aug 21, 2019I agree. Maybe making the focus of his run on batman training her, a person with powers, it would be different. But nope. It's almost like he didn't plan this at all...
Nihilist - Aug 21, 2019Yeah, that would have been really nice. Maybe a bit like Terra with the betrayal thing, but I'd dig it, if it was written well. After all, her concept is solid - a superpowered character whose powers drain her life force, so she must not use them, yet she wants to be a heroine. Good inner conflict. This comic, on the other hand... Yeesh, is it bad...
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1.0
King's disasterous run continues to be disasterous. SPOILERS BEWARE SPOILERS ... Bane killing Alfred throws all his set up from the window.It doesn't even make sense
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myconius - Aug 21, 2019don't worry. if we've learned anything from this dog muck run, it's that spinal injuries are not all that serious. all they'll have to do is rub some bengay on it and he'll be fine.
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1.0
Alfred - alongside Gordon & Joker - is the only essential character of every portrayal of Batman's mythos. Killing him in such an anti-climatic fashion, without previous "character work" or diegetic-dialogical preparation, doesn't represent a brilliant estrangement, or some sort of Freudian "unheimliche": it simply attempts to delegitimize the narrative foundations of this - Batman's - literary micro-cosm.
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Is the dialogue always this bad?
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just call this arc- 'Knightfall for Dummies' more ridiculous, random, nonsensical gibberish. -more Bruce acting like a pathetic boob. -more comical punches to the face. -more regurgitation lines from Frank Miller out of context. -more pathetic edge lord cheap shocks. unadulterated TRASH!
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1.0
Short review: TRASH, TRASH, TRASH. A SHAME for the great art being wasted. Long review: This story gets worse& worse. King really wants to make us believe, that Bruce would go shopping with Catwoman in Paris, while his city& family are in great danger? Wounded or not, I can’t see Bruce not trying to make contact with the batfamily or with the JL& waste precious time like this. I would like the scene with Damien telling Thomas, that he isn’t his real grandfather, if it was logical. While it was stated, that some New52/Rebirth characters remember Pre52 I‘m asking myself from where do they know, that Martha became Joker in Flashpoint? That was stated nowhere. I also would like Damien more, if he wasn’t responsible for Sc arecrow getting wounded. So this is another example for King wasting the villains& having no clue about their characters. So I really hope, that Scarecrow is alright. Since he’s one of my favorite characters it hurts seeing him in an awful story like this. The Catwoman/ Batman story is so forced it’s basically mere fanfiction. The dialogue is just awful& embarrassing considering the fact, that an adult wrote it. SPOILER: As for the ending & Alfred getting killed I don’t buy it yet, but if it’s true, it’s one of the dumbest stories ever written by DC. And I wouldn’t be surprised, if Bruce was more upset about Catwoman breaking up with him than Alfred getting killed. That’s how badly King is writing these characters after all. SPOILER ENDING So overall, if you hate every DC character, love characters being killed& hurt for nothing & characters being wasted& reduced to canon fodder, then you will love King‘s Batman run. more
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myconius - Aug 21, 2019do you ever notice the people giving low score reviews about tom king comics are pretty concise about what they didn't like. ....and on the flip side people that give the high scores give the most vapid reviews ever.
Darkseid24 - Aug 21, 2019Yeah, I rarely see high score reviews pointing out what is great about his run. King went from mediocre to awful for me. And I actually had some hopes for City of Bane. Villains taking over Gotham normally makes a great story.
myconius - Aug 21, 2019eh. the Villains taking over trope has been done so many times over, and by far more competent writers. all tome king ever does is rehash other writers ideas, but very poorly executed. there's better fan fiction out there than what this bozo is churning out.
Superheroes for Hire - Aug 22, 2019Because Tom King is and always has been a fanboy. Damian knows whatever King knows, because Damian read it in the deep dark secret libraries of the Hall of Justice...
Nihilist - Aug 22, 2019Don't worget about his deus ex wand. He has it, because of course he has it.
myconius - Aug 22, 2019instead of headbutting, maybe he'll slam his butt onto Bane and yell " i have irritable bowel syndrome "
myconius - Aug 28, 2019"IBS for the win!" ....oh my god! that's what this Batman run needs to be called! :D
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I don't think I will ever understand why DC is letting Tom King write this book.
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myconius - Aug 21, 2019my suspicion is they are intentionally trying to go bankrupt. ...one rich guy probably bet another rich guy a crisp five dollar bill, and said "i'll bet you can't do it." so the other rich guy said "oh! i bet i can. and i know JUST the guy that'll help me."
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Lowest possible grade. Just... Just terrible.
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I like Alfred, I mean it. But this issue made me laugh and I just cannot believe this is not a pirate batman issue. RIP Alfred.
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