Batman #78

Once again, Tom King is showing that his entire run has built up to this event, and has been masterfully crafted since its first issue. Read Full Review

Batman #78 is a timely break from action, an emotionally resonant and visually-perfect vacation with Batman and Catwoman. King has built to this from the start, and Mann and Morey help flawlessly execute a pivotal chapter in this run. Read Full Review

This is 100% a key issue of Tom King's run and an absolutely defining moment for the hero himself. Read Full Review

This is another issue that just shines in King's run. The art by Clay Mann is absolutely tops. He's really just an amazing artist. Just amazing. You can't ask for better than this. Read Full Review

I get that Batman, as written by Tom King, is not for everyone. There is certainly a place for Batman as a relentless avenger with no room for anything but his mission, but I've seen that story, in many, many places. I think that this particular take, with a very human Batman who is madly in love with Catwoman, this is a far more interesting and relatable take on the character. I could not be happier that we have twelve issues of Batman and Catwoman featuring this creative team coming next year. Read Full Review

Like a lot of fans, I too felt betrayed by the wedding that didn't happen in issue #50, but I was willing to continue following the story, trusting that King knew what he was doing, and I am glad that I did, as this story was truly heartwarming. It's especially good to see Bruce find some measure of momentary happiness, especially knowing the heartbreak that is looming when he discovers what happened to Alfred last issue. Read Full Review

Superhero comics don't always need to be action-packed and this little tale serves the caped crusader well as an introspective piece. These type of stories help to flesh out the characters and make them three dimensional as opposed to simply two-dimensional good guys versus bad guy tales that become boring if we don't see some contrast and motivation with the characters. This tale is a touching moment between the two leads as they try to figure out why they are so drawn to each other even though they're not good for each other I loved this story and it's one of my favorite Batman tales of this, or any other, year. Read Full Review

Clay Mann is a master at detail and all of the art in this issue is beautiful and filled with it. The characters look amazing. The backgrounds and vistas add emotional weight to the character moments and the tone of the story is perfectly captured in the art. Read Full Review

Tom King deserves a lot of criticism, even when it comes to the main idea of this issue. However, at least for this issue, his execution was immaculate. Add some really beautiful art on top of that and this issue is really amazing. If it had come at a different time, I might have called it perfect. I don't know how the rest of this story arc will turn out but this issue deserves praise. Read Full Review

There are plenty of things worth complaining about concerning Tom King's Batman. I've done more than my fair share of it. At the end of the day though, this is an excellent issue that beautifully captures the relationship of Bruce and Selina. Yes, I'm a little miffed with the timing of this issue, but I can't deny the excellent work that the entire creative team provides here. Batman #78 is top-notch, and all parties involved should be incredibly happy with the work they've done here! Read Full Review

Batman #78 is a welcome return to form for the series, as the Bat and the Cat take center stage. Read Full Review

The hopeless romantic in me felt totally seen and appreciated with issue #78 ofBatman. The comic book reader in me continues to wonder how far my patience can carry me as I'm ready for some closure. Read Full Review

Overall, Batman #78 is a fun first part of an interlude that dives deep into the relationship between Batman and Catwoman. It is strengthed by the writer and artists' adoration for the story, but the abrupt change in pace may upset those who wanted to see the aftermath of the previous issues' cliffhanger. Read Full Review

Batman #78 is a great issue that tops off Bruce and Selina's personal arc. The dialogue is particularly well-constructed. Despite some silliness and weird placement within the “City of Bane” story, it is still pretty awesome. Easily the best issue of Batman in a little while. Read Full Review

This City of Bane interlude chapter is for all the Bat/Cat fans that have been bummed out ever since Batman #50. This is a very nice and satisfying issue, despite it containing no updates from Bane's conquering of Gotham. Tom King's writing is great and Clay Mann's art - despite some panel recycling - is very good, as well. Don't skip this issue if you're already reading City of Bane. And to those of you who dropped Batman after #50 - I'd say take a chance and pick this ish' up. Read Full Review

While I was never all that enthused with DC's plans to marry Bruce and Selina, the last-second folding of that story never set right with me either. If you want do it, do it. Batman #78 begins to help repair the damage done to both characters and reset the romantic status quo one more time. Worth a look. Read Full Review

BATMAN #78 is interesting and compelling on its own. It's placement within the larger narrative feels wrong, though, creating tone problems coming off our last issue. Read Full Review

Batman #78 is possibly an unwelcome interlude for some, breaking up the action and pace of the ‘City of Bane' narrative, but there's no denying the emotional weight and beauty of the writing and art. Please, please, please can we head back to Gotham in the next issue though? Read Full Review

A perfectly fine issue has some sprinkles of character development, while mostly slowly walking circles around itself. Read Full Review

Tom King their goal of getting Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle back together at the conclusion of Batman #78. King clearly takes great care in writing Bruce and Selina's relationship. Unfortunately this issue falters when it comes to the actual "City of Bane" storyline. There is no sense of urgency even after the jaw dropping moment in Batman #77 that should've been shown as major event which rocked the franchise. If King doesn't shift the attention back to what is going on in Gotham City in the next issue he risks losing the big event narrative in "City of Bane." Read Full Review

Everything is too on the nose. King is going for subtext, but its just too apparent. The only really worthwhile bit of info we got is that Bruce never blamed Selina for leaving, which took her by surprise as well as me. Now that they are finally back together, lets take down Bane. Please. 7 issues to go. Read Full Review

The most skippable comic in Tom King's Batman run. There is nothing new or interesting going on here. If you enjoy Clay Mann art it may be worth the pick up, but that is about all there is to see here. A mostly boring retread through the Batman and Catwoman romance. Read Full Review

Last issue really felt like it was escalating the City of Bane to another level. Issue 78 just finds King waxing poetic about Bat and Cat again with hardly a care in the world. Theres more than enough Batman offerings this week that you can easily skip this issue and not miss anything. Read Full Review

Linkush

Sep 11, 2019

I really liked it. I can already see people complaining about how this is filler but I think that it's good to finally have a more laid back issue that focuses on Bruce and Selina's relationship, especially after they were separated for so long. I thought that it was well written, heartwarming and beautiful. The art is so good I don't think I know a word to describe how good it is. And most importantly, this issue felt earned. I've been waiting for this kind of issue since #50 so I'm happy we finally got one.

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Superheroes for Hire - Sep 11, 2019

Laid back and relationships? We are to believe Batman has found out Alfred is dead and Damian kidnapped, but then we get a therapy issue?

Linkush - Sep 11, 2019

"The only thing that can defeat Bane is coming here, to this beach. I was hurt. I'm training. With your help. I'm getting better. I'm going to be better. That's all that matters." they are there for a reason. Also, Bruce and Selina's relationship is a key aspect in King's run, so yes I'm happy that King took the time to give us an issue that focuses on them. This is supposed to be an interlude. It's supposed to be a break from all the action from last issues.

ProphecyGirl40 - Sep 11, 2019

^^This! And even though it's an interlude, it's still crucial to the overall story. It answers the thesis to King's entire run: can Bruce be happy and still be Batman?

Talon1load - Sep 13, 2019

Bruce HAS been happy before. And this idiotic interlude is only important because King is forcing it to be. It still makes zero sense. Why did those guys even know what could beat Bane? Nothing makes sense.

itsclppng

Sep 11, 2019

King writes Batman and Catwoman’s relationship perfectly in this one, regardless of all the other nonsense he’s done in the last thirty issues. I was able to forget about all of that and really enjoy the art and dialogue in this surprisingly uplifting issue.

Tony

Sep 11, 2019

I consider that, nobody in their right mind, will criticize Mann's art in this issue, it is absolutely incredible. It is a 10 out of a 10. It is one of the most beautiful drawings I have seen in several years and the colors do not detract at all. The problem will focus on the script and the dialogues of Tom King but no one should be surprised. A few numbers to conclude his stage, he will not change, for better or worse from here until the end he will remain in his style and in what he intends to oppose. I like the Bat-Cat stuff, I just hope this really leads to something compelling and that in the end everything joins with a certain logic. I need to see how this relationship evolves in the following issues to be able to reach a conclusion a bout it and see if everything that has happened after number 50 has been worthwhile. more

LunaMoody

Sep 11, 2019

Beautiful art and coloring. I love how much detail the artist puts into his work. I also love the story. It was good to see Selina helping Batman get his mojo back after all he has gone through. I also loved how they were so torn between their love and emotions after their non-wedding. It felt real and deeply emotional. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. I find it funny how so many reviewers are upset over this interlude because of the timing of it. I'm glad they wrote it. It was beautifully done. I don't think at this time Bruce has found out about Alfred yet or maybe he has and that's how Alfred will end up still being alive. Maybe Bruce and Selina set something up that switched him out somehow and he didn't get killed. I for one am inte rested in finding out how it all comes together. I honestly haven't totally hated Kings run on Batman. At times it has gotten so slow a dead person could out run it. Hate Gotham Girl. Hated Dick getting shot. But that is mostly because of him losing his memory more then anything else. And I'm not happy about the whole Bane arc. It's to much of a repeat of the Knightfall story arc. I would have liked it to have been centered more around Thomas Wayne instead. I think having him show up and the crazy things he's doing is interesting. I hope we find out why Thomas is doing all this. Now there has been a lot of King's run I have liked also. Love the relationship growth of Selena and Bruce. Loved the date issue. I thought the jokes and riddles arc was good. I like how the Joker stopped him from killing Riddler. It made for a cool twist. King did write some interesting things. I'm looking forward to his run on Batman/ Catwoman series. more

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Darkseid24 - Sep 14, 2019

You mean Knightfall in bad& lame. Kings run cant even keep up with a filler in Knightfall.

LunaMoody - Sep 14, 2019

Are you asking me if I thought Knightfall was bad and lame? What I said was this current story line is just a reword repeat of Knightfall. It's nothing new or fresh

Darkseid24 - Sep 14, 2019

No, I meant, that this story might try to copy Knightfall, but that it can never reach the same quality. Kings run is an insult to Knightfall.

LunaMoody - Sep 14, 2019

ahhh gotcha : ) I think both arc's had good and bad parts to them. I don't know that I like either one more then the other. I do wish that Bane had been left out of the story and it had been centered around Thomas instead.

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Sep 12, 2019

That was a beautiful issue and actually really captures the loneliness, and dodging, of a relationship with hurt on both sides.

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Psycamorean - Sep 12, 2019

The whole monologue about the coarseness of sand really got me cryin'.

Br'er Lapin AKA 20-Ish Ceiln - Sep 12, 2019

You're gonna get dirt in your eye.

Anotherfan

Sep 11, 2019

Really liked the issue. Still finding this story well writen and touching. And of course, art is on another level.

Nickweiser

Sep 11, 2019

Not much happens as it is another Bat Cat convo but the execution is nicely done and more life like unlike some of the more robotic convos of the past. Clay Mann art is amazing as always.

Another Nerd

Sep 11, 2019

Beautiful issue, both art and writing.

axdn

Sep 15, 2019

I just loved it !

Grifter

Sep 11, 2019

Clay Mann’s art 😍

BirdmanG07

Sep 11, 2019

Bump in score cause of the art. The art is amazing, narratively I’d put it closer to a 7. King’s pacing for the run overall has been slow, I almost feel like this all should’ve been included in the previous issue. I can see where the Bruce and Selena are “talking at not to” perspective is coming from but I don’t think it’s as bad as others. Had the overall pacing in the run been better this would have a higher score. It’s needed for the overall story I believe he’s going for to work.

M1sf1r3

Nov 10, 2019

Prelude: Well... last issue was something alright. Let's see how things are shaping up for Bruce in this interlude. The Good: I've got some Batman in my Batman comic. I.... actually like the dialogue this issue. I'm surprised too. Great art as well but it's Clay Mann, so that's nothing new. The Bad: This isn't much of a City of Bane issue but that's fine with me. The fact that City of Bane is happening while Bruce is hanging out with Selina is a bit annoying. Conclusion: While this issue doesn't tackle the core events in Gotham, it's nice to unwind a bit with Bruce and Selina in this interlude.

Red Hood

Apr 28, 2021

I mean, yes, a lot of people have complained this was a filler. Technically, this and the next issue are both considered fillers to this storyline. They hardly do anything for Batman and just show the relationship that Bruce and Selina have.

MKW69

Sep 11, 2019

Not bad, But it should happen long time ago!

AdmiralWhiskers

Sep 11, 2019

Tom King is a goner, so I'm presuming that this arc is toast within 12 months of his departure. That makes reviewing this little escapade as anything more than the oddity that it is...well, kinda pointless. I don't mind the "City of Bane" arc itself, but the "how we got here" part with Thomas Wayne was dreadful. But I digress, and I don't want to continue beating up on the soon-departed. It was an decent story for what it was...A sexy little rehab of body and mind on the French Riviera or wherever. Perhaps the most intelligible story I've read by King, and that counts for a lot with him. My complaints are cosmetic: 1. The Cat/Bat dialogue is annoying. I know King is wed to that terminology, but he leans on it way too hard . 2. Training in spandex suits is a little more than silly when you're in some tropical paradise. 3. Practicality aside, they must have zero issues about personal privacy. Never mind that BRUCE WAYNE is vacationing with some knockout babe...and OH WAIT ITS BATMAN. King hits the relationship notes in a stunted way, and the big pages of working out suggest he's healing. That counts for plot progress, I hope. The art was great. I bet the artist had a blast not drawing sewage infested streets and chemical warehouses. He draws pretty women in paradise quite well. Not much more to say about it. Except that GOTHAM IS BURNING AND ALFRED IS DEAD. Can you rub a little more suntan lotion on my back? more

allenquanobi

Sep 11, 2019

Wow the art is good. The story is eh... I do like the way king writes Batman and Catwoman's relationship, but couldn't they have solved their problems in Gotham while fighting criminals or doing something that progresses the plot. Why go to the beach instead lol it kinda just makes Batman seem hypocritical and lazy. I wish this entire issue had the same dialogue but in Gotham instead, or in some other setting. It is a shame that the art is always so good, I hope for the next Batman run the artists get to stay, specifically Mann and Weeks, that would be awesome

Afre

Sep 11, 2019

I for one, don't hate it. I like it actually. I like seeing Bat and Cat together. The art is great. Writing isn't bad. What I don't like is the timeline this is set in. City of Bane is happening right now and Bruce is just relaxing. That doesn't fit to his character. I actually hate how Bruce isn't doing everything he can to stop Bane now. It's a hard comic to review. It's not bad, as a stand-alone comic, it's good. But as part of CoB, it is bad.

egonnn244

Sep 11, 2019

"My world is dust without you" I'm fine. Everything is... fine. Bat. It doesn't matter. It's settled. Cat. I'm fine. Everything's fine. The boat. Brah. That's your wife? I fine. Everything's fine. The street. I waited. I wept. I'm fine. I'm not fine. Everything's fine. Everything's not fine. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. It fills the speech bubbles and makes your dialogue deep (pretentious) and profound (super-pretentious). And just when I started to think that Selina finally starts sounding like a human being and instead of "Bat" finally calls the guy by his name (that part where they were in beds was really quite good, I especially liked the part about Bruce letting go when he is with Selina), King gives me the part by the fire where she again is an emotionless robot that just says things. Damn it. At least the art is top notch. But that's to be expected, it's Clay Mann and Tomeu Morey after all. Those two can't do wrong. That opening on the beach? Wow, they really know how to show some sexy... I mean good looking, people. But for the future, you don't scale a mountainside in high heels, I don't care how skilled Catwoman is. Suspension of disbelief has its limits. more

Federico Liguori

May 13, 2023

"Cat! Bat! Cat! Bat!" and so on.

DarePool53

Dec 16, 2020

Clay Mann's art is worth the cover price alone. Which is a good thing, considering that the dialogue reads like it was randomly generated by an AI that's been loaded with every Tom King Batman comic ever written. An aesthetically-pleasing yet horrifically dull issue.

REYNARD

Sep 11, 2019

I can't believe I actually read this. The art is gorgeous, don't get me wrong, but this book though... This is the most unimaginative and elementary comic I have ever read in my entire life. At least when I read All-Star Batman and Robin (TBW) I get some enjoyment out of attempting to decipher Miller's ridiculous storytelling, but this is just makes me lose brain-cells. "Oh wow, he mentioned the possible future seen back in Annual #2 (which I actually liked)", "King's work is so connected; he truly is the definitive writer of our generation." I don't care how good the art is, how many "interesting" or "creative" ideas he introduces, Tom King can't write romance for shit, and the only "modern classic" he will ever be responsible for making is the "Darkseid War: Green Lantern" issue. more

Pseudnik

Sep 14, 2019

Probably worth buying for Clay Mann's art. Just scribble out all of Tom King's words first and you're good to go.

CaptnAmerca

Sep 16, 2019

Another Tom King issue, another waste of time.

Quinn

Sep 11, 2019

The art is great, that is why I rate it this highly. The whole issue is Bruce and Selina talking at each other, not to each other. Basically, Selina says she gave up the relationship to be a hero, but she is not a hero, she is a thief. Bruce said he thought Batman had to be alone to work. But that doesn’t explain Robins 1-4, Multiple Batgirls, Batwomen, justice leagues, commissioners, Outsiders. Remember kids, Batman debuted in 1939, Robin in 1940. That partnership lasted until 1969. Basically, Batman as a loner is a myth. Anyway, Bruce and selina’s Dialog could have been thoughts to themselves. I get little sense of actual two way communication. Also Bruce disguises himself as old school Magnum PI. NICE! They train in an d out of costume and are looking for the one thing that can beat Bane. Very decompressed. The whole issue could have been done in one panel both say I missed you and I was wrong, let’s get the macguffin. Again great art. Or I could be wrong. more

Nihilist

Sep 11, 2019

It's by far one of the best looking Batman comics in a while, filled with gorgeous art, from start to finish, but that's the tragedy of it - it looks great, but offers nothing of value otherwise. It's garbage, borderline unreadable due to its painful, almost mechanical dialogues, and no real, actual, genuine chemistry between Catwoman and Batman. Their relationship has become Twilight level of forced and unnatural. Even if you don't dislite King's run, I see no reason to recommend this comic. It's worthless filler. Too bad Mann's talents were wasted on it.

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AdmiralWhiskers - Sep 11, 2019

Understood and appreciated. I suppose the variance between your score and mine (6.5) is that you chose to penalize King's writing, which I actually thought was among his more intelligible, and not reward perhaps the best artwork in any DC book this week. Seriously, the art was a 6 on a 5 scale. I'm not saying you are wrong for your stance -- perhaps I was with mine? And then there is the meta-issue of how King could totally isolate the couple from the atrocities taking place in Gotham!

Nihilist - Sep 11, 2019

Yeah, the art was fantastic. Simply breathtaking. I decided to penalize King strongly, as you assumed, because not only nothing happened in the issue, it was also super stiff and forced. That's the worst kind of filler. So, story and dialogues are 0/10 in my book, the art 10/10, so average 33%.

Spacey Medicine

Sep 18, 2019

Luckily this relationship is now 100% healthy and built on a firm foundation of mutual love, respect, and communication. All it took was abandoning somebody at the altar and then standing on a beach throwing bladed weapons at each other! Ain’t love grand.

Talon1load

Sep 11, 2019

The art is good but this story and dialogue are so damn bad that it’s a 2.5 for me. Apparently Catwoman interrogated the 2 random guys on the mountain who easily beat and cut Bruce’s throat. For some reason they knew the key to beating Bane. Why? Who the hell knows. King can never be bothered to provide details. The dialogue is so bad that I’m left assuming Tom King is actually a hermit who has never interacted with another human being. This issue and the entire series is complete bullshit. Thank god he’s leaving but it still isn’t soon enough.

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Andrea D’Alò - Sep 11, 2019

Man, you just hate Tom King. What’s the point of all of this?

Talon1load - Sep 11, 2019

I definitely hate his fan fiction type writing that’s for sure. What’s the point of your comment though? Do you think you’ll make me see the error of my ways so he only gets good reviews? The point is to hopefully help others decide weather or not to waste their money on his work.

Darkseid24 - Sep 14, 2019

@Andrea King has many flaws. You have to turn your brain off to ignore the countless plotholes& how much the characters are ooc. His Batman run is one of the worst runs I have ever read.

KFuqua

Sep 12, 2019

Great art and more garbage written by Tom King. I can't wait for him to be off of Batman!

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Darkseid24 - Sep 14, 2019

Yeah, but with my luck someone worse is going to take over.

myconius - Sep 18, 2019

i won't shed not one tear when AT&T shuts down DC's comic publishing. those a-holes pushed their luck forcing this Jackass on us for 100 issues. now they can go £u¢k themselves as the company dissolves piece by piece!

Darkseid24 - Sep 19, 2019

Yeah DC is quite lame lately.

myconius - Sep 19, 2019

yeah. unfortunately.

Psycamorean

Sep 11, 2019

"It's like poetry, it rhymes."

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Big Brother - Sep 11, 2019

The prequels were far better than this.

Psycamorean - Sep 11, 2019

The dialogue is about on par.

myconius

Sep 11, 2019

an absolutely pathetic excuse for a Batman comic!! the only thing this comic was missing was Catwoman tying Batman up in bondage with a gag-ball in his mouth, then spanking his fanny with a paddle until he said "Thank you Mistress Catwoman. May i have another?" this has nothing to do with the issues before it.

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Darkseid24 - Sep 14, 2019

I couldn‘t force myself to read it yet. It looks pretty Meh

myconius - Sep 15, 2019

it's more than Meh. it's like it was written by someone completely Lobotomized. there's no real connection to the previous two issues whatsoever. it's jarring random malarky. and Bruce and Selina are acting like a couple of angsty love lorn teenagers. it's particularly annoying seeing Batman acting like a wishy washy little dickless sap.

ohhaimark - Sep 15, 2019

Yikes. This sounds terrible. Glad I quit this series when I did.

Darkseid24 - Sep 16, 2019

Cant blame you @ohhaimark And you are totally right & myconius

myconius - Oct 2, 2019

ohhaimark - the humane thing to do would be to just let this series die in peace. but i'm thinking of the Batman comic series like a loved one that is terminally ill. i'm sitting with them, keeping them company until the bitter painful end comes. ...when the time comes, may it Rest in Peace.

myconius - Oct 2, 2019

Darkseid24 - thanks.

ohhaimark - Oct 2, 2019

@myconius- Hahaha! I feel the same way about the Gerard Way Doom Patrol, although that’s getting better. I guess DC finally realized he can’t write.

myconius - Oct 12, 2019

@ohhaimark- yeah. it's really hard to take Gerard Way's wannabe Avant-garde writing seriously.

ohhaimark - Oct 12, 2019

Most definitely. I don't know why so many people are praising it, when to me it feels like third or fourth rate Grant Morrison.

myconius - Oct 12, 2019

it just goes to show you the level of standards among the masses. i'd guess a lot of the people praising it are fairly new comic readers. .......hahahaha! yeah! more like a twelfth rate Morrison.

Psycamorean - Oct 13, 2019

I think most of the people who are praising it haven't read Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol. It boggles my mind how it's got any support at all, regardless. But I guess people just like dumb shit that makes them feel smart. Like Tom King's Batman!

myconius - Oct 13, 2019

@YourGreenMuse - HEAR! HEAR!!

ohhaimark - Oct 13, 2019

Perfectly said, YourGreenMuse.

Darkseid24 - Oct 13, 2019

I‘ve just read in an interview, that Kings run was cancelled, because his story didnt fit with the events, since the last 12 issues only will be Batman/ Catwoman& thats why he got his own mini series. Quite disappointing & boring, if the last issues wouldn’t have adressed City of Bane, but a lame love story

myconius - Oct 15, 2019

Darkseid24 - i'm not sure i believe that. i think they are trying to spare him the humiliation of booting his ass off this terrible run. it's good they ended it and saved him from embarrassing himself even further with his pathetic attempts at trying to be epic. the only thing he does that is epic is fail.

SnakeWilson

Sep 12, 2019

oh yes, the beach episode, that's why we all love anime in today's episode, it's made clear that the great mangaka tom king did not finish his story so more filler the animation is gorgeous, as you can expect our beloved protagonist is still trying to find love with his Tsundere(or wtf is the term) unfortunately he comes out as one of those random dudes you find on social media complaining about their feelings in the most generic yet pretentious way possible lots of weird dialogue repeating words, one word sentences and etc. making even more clear that this is a filler episode to fill up space the best part is how heroic our protagonist comes out. his beloved city is burning and he is on a island with his crush. now that's is the s uper hero sh#t i love but let's be real, enough. Tom, please, go read Morrison's batman or even Snyder's run. Batman isnt the type of man you are. He does not need a woman to motivated him, to make him strong. That's not batman. The same goes for people who like this. This is not batman. more

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myconius - Sep 12, 2019

i liked the anime reference. summed up this happy crappy comic very well.