Chip Zdarksy is their best (and his Cap is just so so).

I can’t even tell anymore. The incompetent ones stand out more than any good ones.

Most of these characters have been around for a decade if not longer. Araña is like a 25 year old character at this point.

??? And? Your comment has nothing to do with what he said.

If you like these characters, Toonstack, please don't let my review take away your enjoyment.

It just seems like you're not actually reviewing the book but the concept of spider characters. Thats what's kinda throwing me But to each their own I guess

Can you really separate the concept from the story? The cover is explicitly playing with the concept, and the fact that those are alternative "Spider-Men" matters to the story. You can't just take them out and have the same story. I also mentioned the art, that I don't like.

I guess the only aspect I left out because I wanted to keep it short and focused on my main issues, is Osborn as Spider-Man. I don't think it's a particularly great idea, but it gives us the opportunity for the cosmic Spider-Man stories drawn by Pepe Larraz, which are much more interesting to me. It's a shame that the series cannot focus on one storyline and one artist.

Fuck all the way off.

You can always count on the woke brigade to say something kind and inclusive. 😂

An example that is part of the problem

Indeed

Crying about other people not being kind and inclusive AFTER you intentionally misgender someone; if you can't see the hypocrisy then you're... well, like every other MAGA

LOL. Kind of expected a ridiculous comment like this. I'm not MAGA. I'm not even American.

This is selling like hotcakes due to the controversy, and some covers have already gone up in price. If it's true, this profit will only go to stores; that is, this wasn't planned from the beginning. Maybe everyone is arguing about something the writer or DC didn't see a future in due to poor writing and wanted to do the same thing as the supergay: stir up controversy to boost sales of their only issue. Either the writer didn't want to continue with the issues and self-sabotaged to screw the com

You can stir up some harmless controversy with stuff that's much less divisive. And in that case, you probably wouldn't cancel the book. If the book is really selling because of this debacle... well, that's really fucked up.

You're right. Someone with half a brain can generate harmless controversy. Then all that's left to think is that this person needs professional help. Unfortunately, morbid curiosity sells. For my part, I think RH fans ultimately won, since the comic's narrative quality is poor.

I was here looking for a review, but got some Nostradamus from Temu.

If you thought Aaron, as a Marvel tool, destroyed the character, it's about to get even worse. It's not for you, and it's not for me; it's for an anti-Trump generation, those modernists who want the industry to speak their language and for the world to eternally embrace social equality. Percy is bad, as is Pepose. If he gets it right, it's only a matter of time before he becomes the same old thing, eventually becoming disinterested and sidelined like so many other series.

I respect your opinion, but Marvel didn't bring back the Punisher to commit the same mistake. I will rather wait and see how they will develop this series. This will eventually retcon what Aaron did in 2022. Now, let's hope for the best.

If you're content with just the amnesiac Frank, who (SPOILERS AHEAD) starts shooting recklessly and putting the lives of innocent people at risk until an old lady shows up and becomes, according to the issue, his new sidekick since the old Microship, adding bloodthirsty scenes from Fisk and Tombstone as a pretext to be a "violent comic book," as well as bringing Frank back in his skull uniform to later activate a kind of chip in his brain, maybe you folow this to the end.

Of course, in the end, when he overcomes this corruption in his mind, he will come with everything against these villains, but Fisk has the protection of an entire editorial, so we won't see anything serious happening to him, the kind of protection that made him knock out the Hulk easily.

I hope for something good, I just hope, maybe in Knights, by Palmiotti, but it's just a small hope that brings Frank back in a dignified way in a universe other than 616, in 616 he will no longer be the same, unless he leaves Marvel or goes to an indie for example, like Titan.

I consider myself pretty anti-woke, but I can see nothing woke about this comic - at least not in this first issue. I'm not familiar with Percy, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

I got to say that the final cliffhanger, I was apprehensive. I hate when they put Frank in that "condition". But I will wait to see how they will handle this before shouting out that it's crap.

If I'm jumping the gun, I wish it were possible, but not with the predictability these books have become. The fact that The Hand solution was even considered is already something that leaves me feeling completely negative. I can't see the Punisher acting at the behest of criminals, and it's pretty clear that Fisk will be protected even as he recovers from his amnesia and gradually regains his memory.

As for Percy, I haven't read anything good from him, his Red Hulk is very boring and his stories are so red that it's impossible not to connect them to the woke.

"so red that it's impossible not to connect them to the woke".???? Do you mean blue? Don't really get what your saying. This.....doesn't seem woke. Percy is pretty violent and gory in his stories and generally just a fun writer.

The wokeness is evident here by simply having the character kill selected criminals on a schedule ordered by a king of organized crime. This absurdity only aims to deconstruct the character even further than he's already been deconstructed. And the violence here doesn't work, as it's meant to please woke readers, which is why Punisher 616 is being written.

This guy literally mentioned modernity, enlightenment thinking, as a bad thing. How ridiculous that any of you are taking this guy seriously or engaging with him.

Modernity aims to distort the character. He doesn't kill criminals in the service of criminals, and even if I weren't here, the reaction this caused was negative from the moment it was announced. Your dissatisfaction with my review is just another woke reaction, which says that when there is no social equality, everything should be despised.

"Everything I don't like is woke!"

An entire biased deconstruction aims to serve woke.

Go fuck yourself, coward

orbisstelassis- Is that you, Gretchen?

Yet you bought a copy and evidently read it! Glad you have money to burn on copies of comics that only enrage you.

Glad you have so much time on your hands, you spend it hate-commenting on other people's reviews. Pathetic.

Assuming you have a job, you spent a lot more time earning the money to buy a $4.99 comic than I did writing these comments.

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Why do you think he bought it? Your whole insult is based on him spending money on this garbage. You know most people who hate read, or probably review on here in general, read their books for free online right? Your being a Karen...and a dumb one at that. Stay in your own lane.

Pretty much my thoughts. However, I don’t hate read. I have been an X-Men fan for decades and I want these books to be good. When they are, they get good reviews from me. When they aren‘t, I call them out on the bullshit.

I didn't think you did. Just sounded like he was accusing you of doing so. Been reading x-men since I was 15 & now I'm 50 and I can say this is the worst time in X history IMO so most reviews are gonna be bad....especially by folks who remember the glory days. Hard to like tofu when you grew up eating steak.

Absolutely. :-D Yeah, I agree about this being the worst time in X history, and I lived through the horrible early 90s and the Morrison run, which I hated too, but at least he was a real writer, not an activist. I'm at a point now where I'm actually losing my interest completely. I'm still somewhat invested in Uncanny X-Men and Storm, because they feature some of my favorite X-Men, but I'm sure the upcoming Age of Revelation will f*ck up those books as well.

It's a great jump-off point, so thanks, Marvel.

I have to say the teeth gnashing of anti-woke haters makes me very happy. So keep it up dipshits.

Nothing interesting to say from the comic fluffer. Typical. lol 10's for everyone with no reason other than you have no brain to evaluate anything. Just take what they give you without question. Woke isn't the real problem, it's bad stories rolled up in a virtue burrito that has no flavor numb nuts. Woke is a good thing a lot of bad writers hide behind.

glad to hear you like my work!

Hiring woke activists instead of writers is a problem. The reason the stories are bad is because the emphasis is on indoctrination.

Go have a cry about it ok?

Isn't crying your job, snowflake?

stay mad bro

The anti-woke mob is easier to trigger than those they call snowflakes. All you have to do is call an individual, "they" in a panel and they lose their minds.

Sorry, all of the he/hims lose their minds. Crap I did it again.

Can you give an example of activism within the text?

Also, Morrison isn't he. They are they. And they are an activist.

LOL Not doing the pronoun game. Also not losing my mind over this nonsense.

Just imagine a world where the Germans didn't hate every person not like them. What a wonderfully better world that would be. Oh wait this isn't the 1940s anymore... Thought you would have learned your lesson the first two times.

Wow, playing the German card... that's really low. Seems like you're the one hating a whole group of people, not me. You may have noticed this isn't a war. And if you had read some of my other reviews, you knew that I love some books too - just not this one. You will probably not do that, but if I were you, I'd ask myself why a comic book review makes me so mad that I have to compare the reviewer to a Nazi.

It seems that card I played was justly laid when overall reasonings to dislike this era as you stated over several reviews is bigoted. It wasn't your review itself but your comments therein. And I don't hate all Germans. I just don't like ones that don't learn from the past and pass judgement on those different from them to the point of not wanting them to exist or interact with them. I'M not the one who's people within the last century annihilated swaths of people for being different.

I'll go as low as I need to when fighting against low class people who can't simply let others live how they want without trying to impose their will or eradicate them altogether. The vast majority of the people you're against in this scenario simply want to be addressed how they want. You don't have to agree with whether or not you feel genderfluidity or trans people exist. But why is it so hard to simply address someone as they, or her, or him as they choose?

Your people didn't have much of a problem sewing patches onto others in order to identify them how YOU wanted them identified. Now that someone wants that power for themselves you have a problem with it. Which is funny, it's like that's been the ENTIRE POINT OF THE X-MEN!

Hating on X-Men comics for being woke is honestly hilarious, it's like hating water for being wet. Duh, what did you think you were in for when you picked it up? Your problem, Chrissy, is that you never really understood what those old X-Men books were about. Sorry to break it to you, but they've always been woke.

I'm surprised you're from Germany, all the Germans I've met are moderate to progressive. Probably the result of shared cultural trauma at the hands of fascists who took over and destroyed their country and a collective desire to never repeat those acts of depravity. I assumed you were just a red state hick whose uneducated and bigoted parents taught you to hate from an early age. But you weren't forced to be like this, you got this way all on your own. My bad for making assumptions.

I have been following Chris for a while now and I have to say your derogatory name calling and character deconstruction is childish and barbaric. Chris is none of the things your ascribing to him, please see reason and do your own thing. Using the German rhetoric is really weird and you sound like a bully quite frankly.

Thanks, Gio. I didn’t even read Hex‘s and ChuckTurd‘s last comments, it’s probably just more of the same. I don’t feel the need to explain myself or justify my dislike of the current X-Men books. It’s just ridiculous that this has become a political and ideological discussion. Fact is, most fans hate the X-Men as a trans metaphor (no, it hasn’t always been this way - just ask Chris Claremont) and the forced inclusion of Ms. Marvel.

Isn't that inherently a political opinion that fans don't like the inclusion of new social perspectives?

I asked for examples of activism in this comic, if you could provide some, that'd be neat.

I don't mind the inclusion of new social perspectives, but this is better done by asking questions and making the reader think, not by preaching and lecturing. I'm sorry, I don't have the time to go into all the details of how woke ideology has infiltrated the comics industry - and you probably won't agree with me anyway if you haven't realised it yourself by now. I'd say the act of forcing Ms. Marvel into these books is an act of activism in itself.

I'd say continuing to read a book you clearly hate and posting repetitive reviews of each new issue is an act of activism too. You've reviewed all 20 issues of X-Men with an average score of 2.4. That's a little odd, no? Why do you read any Marvel books for that matter? You give Marvel books an average score of 4.7 over 100+ reviews. Why bother? Just stick with DC, your average score of 7.8 there clearly says that's your jam. So stop reading Marvel seems like a no brainer.

You made it a political and ideological discussion. You have a clear misunderstanding on the entire concept of the X-Men. They have always been political and ideological. Chris Claremont may agree that the X-Men didn't stand as a trans metaphor WHEN HE WAS WRITING IT. It stood for racism and persecution when Lee and Kirby started it, then was fleshed out more with Claremont. It then transitioned (scary word I know) into a metaphor for the AIDS crisis and anti-gay sentiment. The message evolves.

Why do you care what I do or think? Go play somewhere else, kids.

Chris Y, do you think the inclusion of minority characters in Giant-Size X-Men #1 was activism? Do you think that was preaching and lecturing? What exactly is woke ideology? What are its tenets?

I didn’t say that the inclusion of minority characters is activism. I said the inclusion of this particular character is an act of activism. If you want to learn more about woke ideology and how it has infiltrated mainstream comics, the YouTube channel Thinking Critical is a great starting point.

Why not just tell me yourself? Why is Ms. Marvel's inclusion activism specifically?

Thinking Critical is a terible example of learning anything. He gets his facts wrong constantly and talks about comics he has never read, because he intentionally or inentenally gets the contents wrong.Plus he also rarely adresses facts, that do not help his cause, making his argument weaker or just aimed at people that are not informed. He is a bad faith prophet, even if i agreed (which i dont) with his conclusion i would not trust his judgement.

Okay. I’m wrong about everything. The Giant-Size issues featuring Ms. Marvel are the greatest X-Men story ever told. Happy now?

Why do you fear going into more detail(s) about your own opinion(s) with your own words? I feel like most, if not all, of the users in this thread would have more respect for you if you stopped giving non-answers when asked to go more in depth about your criticisms and whatnot.

I don’t fear going into more detail, I just don’t see a reason to explain myself, because it feels like people here are trying to manipulate me into some kind of “gotcha” situation. I’m also not primarily interested in earning anybody’s respect.

Anyway… the inclusion of Kamala Khan into the X-Men books is completely inappropriate. Although I enjoyed her first series, she has become THE character for Marvel to promote diversity and wokeness (see the NYX series for how the writers depicted her as a self-righteous, insufferable activist). What makes it even worse, is that her new status as a mutant feels completely unnatural and forced.

As if that wasn’t enough, making her the focus character of these Giant-Size issues feels completely unearned and is a slap in the face of any X-fan. If you don’t see the problem, you probably haven’t been a reader of the X-books for longer than two years.

The X-books haven’t always been a metaphor for minorities. And although I don’t mind if people interpret the stories that way, tthey should remain open to interpretation, not manifestos of DEI politics.

The X-Books have ALWAYS been a metaphor for minorities and marginalized communities. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were Jewish. They were persecuted, their families were persecuted. They created X-Men to reflect that. You probably haven't been a reader of X-books for their entire history.

I admit, that would make a lot of sense, wouldn’t it? Unfortunately, it’s not true. Lee and Kirby came up with the mutant concept because they didn’t want to invent more origin stories. Stan Lee actually admitted that. Now, it’s true that the concept lent itself to stories about minorities and persecution for being different. However, the metaphor was still open to interpretation. They didn’t shove the indoctrination down our throats, which is what they are doing now.

Educate yourself Chris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhtkT0IeavA

It’s funny you created this profile just to crap on my review and push the average rating of this book.

Nice I will check this out too, Ive been doing the same thing too and Philip Kennedy Johnson is pretty good sometimes when hes allowed to be. He was getting better in Action Comics and right when things were getting good they ended it with a shit Annual instead of continuing his story...