Giant-Size: Dark Phoenix Saga #1

Yet you bought a copy and evidently read it! Glad you have money to burn on copies of comics that only enrage you.

Glad you have so much time on your hands, you spend it hate-commenting on other people's reviews. Pathetic.

Assuming you have a job, you spent a lot more time earning the money to buy a $4.99 comic than I did writing these comments.

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Why do you think he bought it? Your whole insult is based on him spending money on this garbage. You know most people who hate read, or probably review on here in general, read their books for free online right? Your being a Karen...and a dumb one at that. Stay in your own lane.

Pretty much my thoughts. However, I don’t hate read. I have been an X-Men fan for decades and I want these books to be good. When they are, they get good reviews from me. When they aren‘t, I call them out on the bullshit.

I didn't think you did. Just sounded like he was accusing you of doing so. Been reading x-men since I was 15 & now I'm 50 and I can say this is the worst time in X history IMO so most reviews are gonna be bad....especially by folks who remember the glory days. Hard to like tofu when you grew up eating steak.

Absolutely. :-D Yeah, I agree about this being the worst time in X history, and I lived through the horrible early 90s and the Morrison run, which I hated too, but at least he was a real writer, not an activist. I'm at a point now where I'm actually losing my interest completely. I'm still somewhat invested in Uncanny X-Men and Storm, because they feature some of my favorite X-Men, but I'm sure the upcoming Age of Revelation will f*ck up those books as well.

It's a great jump-off point, so thanks, Marvel.

I have to say the teeth gnashing of anti-woke haters makes me very happy. So keep it up dipshits.

Nothing interesting to say from the comic fluffer. Typical. lol 10's for everyone with no reason other than you have no brain to evaluate anything. Just take what they give you without question. Woke isn't the real problem, it's bad stories rolled up in a virtue burrito that has no flavor numb nuts. Woke is a good thing a lot of bad writers hide behind.

glad to hear you like my work!

Hiring woke activists instead of writers is a problem. The reason the stories are bad is because the emphasis is on indoctrination.

Go have a cry about it ok?

Isn't crying your job, snowflake?

stay mad bro

The anti-woke mob is easier to trigger than those they call snowflakes. All you have to do is call an individual, "they" in a panel and they lose their minds.

Sorry, all of the he/hims lose their minds. Crap I did it again.

Can you give an example of activism within the text?

Also, Morrison isn't he. They are they. And they are an activist.

LOL Not doing the pronoun game. Also not losing my mind over this nonsense.

Just imagine a world where the Germans didn't hate every person not like them. What a wonderfully better world that would be. Oh wait this isn't the 1940s anymore... Thought you would have learned your lesson the first two times.

Wow, playing the German card... that's really low. Seems like you're the one hating a whole group of people, not me. You may have noticed this isn't a war. And if you had read some of my other reviews, you knew that I love some books too - just not this one. You will probably not do that, but if I were you, I'd ask myself why a comic book review makes me so mad that I have to compare the reviewer to a Nazi.

It seems that card I played was justly laid when overall reasonings to dislike this era as you stated over several reviews is bigoted. It wasn't your review itself but your comments therein. And I don't hate all Germans. I just don't like ones that don't learn from the past and pass judgement on those different from them to the point of not wanting them to exist or interact with them. I'M not the one who's people within the last century annihilated swaths of people for being different.

I'll go as low as I need to when fighting against low class people who can't simply let others live how they want without trying to impose their will or eradicate them altogether. The vast majority of the people you're against in this scenario simply want to be addressed how they want. You don't have to agree with whether or not you feel genderfluidity or trans people exist. But why is it so hard to simply address someone as they, or her, or him as they choose?

Your people didn't have much of a problem sewing patches onto others in order to identify them how YOU wanted them identified. Now that someone wants that power for themselves you have a problem with it. Which is funny, it's like that's been the ENTIRE POINT OF THE X-MEN!

Hating on X-Men comics for being woke is honestly hilarious, it's like hating water for being wet. Duh, what did you think you were in for when you picked it up? Your problem, Chrissy, is that you never really understood what those old X-Men books were about. Sorry to break it to you, but they've always been woke.

I'm surprised you're from Germany, all the Germans I've met are moderate to progressive. Probably the result of shared cultural trauma at the hands of fascists who took over and destroyed their country and a collective desire to never repeat those acts of depravity. I assumed you were just a red state hick whose uneducated and bigoted parents taught you to hate from an early age. But you weren't forced to be like this, you got this way all on your own. My bad for making assumptions.

I have been following Chris for a while now and I have to say your derogatory name calling and character deconstruction is childish and barbaric. Chris is none of the things your ascribing to him, please see reason and do your own thing. Using the German rhetoric is really weird and you sound like a bully quite frankly.

Thanks, Gio. I didn’t even read Hex‘s and ChuckTurd‘s last comments, it’s probably just more of the same. I don’t feel the need to explain myself or justify my dislike of the current X-Men books. It’s just ridiculous that this has become a political and ideological discussion. Fact is, most fans hate the X-Men as a trans metaphor (no, it hasn’t always been this way - just ask Chris Claremont) and the forced inclusion of Ms. Marvel.

Isn't that inherently a political opinion that fans don't like the inclusion of new social perspectives?

I asked for examples of activism in this comic, if you could provide some, that'd be neat.

I don't mind the inclusion of new social perspectives, but this is better done by asking questions and making the reader think, not by preaching and lecturing. I'm sorry, I don't have the time to go into all the details of how woke ideology has infiltrated the comics industry - and you probably won't agree with me anyway if you haven't realised it yourself by now. I'd say the act of forcing Ms. Marvel into these books is an act of activism in itself.

I'd say continuing to read a book you clearly hate and posting repetitive reviews of each new issue is an act of activism too. You've reviewed all 20 issues of X-Men with an average score of 2.4. That's a little odd, no? Why do you read any Marvel books for that matter? You give Marvel books an average score of 4.7 over 100+ reviews. Why bother? Just stick with DC, your average score of 7.8 there clearly says that's your jam. So stop reading Marvel seems like a no brainer.

You made it a political and ideological discussion. You have a clear misunderstanding on the entire concept of the X-Men. They have always been political and ideological. Chris Claremont may agree that the X-Men didn't stand as a trans metaphor WHEN HE WAS WRITING IT. It stood for racism and persecution when Lee and Kirby started it, then was fleshed out more with Claremont. It then transitioned (scary word I know) into a metaphor for the AIDS crisis and anti-gay sentiment. The message evolves.

Why do you care what I do or think? Go play somewhere else, kids.

Chris Y, do you think the inclusion of minority characters in Giant-Size X-Men #1 was activism? Do you think that was preaching and lecturing? What exactly is woke ideology? What are its tenets?

I didn’t say that the inclusion of minority characters is activism. I said the inclusion of this particular character is an act of activism. If you want to learn more about woke ideology and how it has infiltrated mainstream comics, the YouTube channel Thinking Critical is a great starting point.

Why not just tell me yourself? Why is Ms. Marvel's inclusion activism specifically?

Thinking Critical is a terible example of learning anything. He gets his facts wrong constantly and talks about comics he has never read, because he intentionally or inentenally gets the contents wrong.Plus he also rarely adresses facts, that do not help his cause, making his argument weaker or just aimed at people that are not informed. He is a bad faith prophet, even if i agreed (which i dont) with his conclusion i would not trust his judgement.

Okay. I’m wrong about everything. The Giant-Size issues featuring Ms. Marvel are the greatest X-Men story ever told. Happy now?

Why do you fear going into more detail(s) about your own opinion(s) with your own words? I feel like most, if not all, of the users in this thread would have more respect for you if you stopped giving non-answers when asked to go more in depth about your criticisms and whatnot.

I don’t fear going into more detail, I just don’t see a reason to explain myself, because it feels like people here are trying to manipulate me into some kind of “gotcha” situation. I’m also not primarily interested in earning anybody’s respect.

Anyway… the inclusion of Kamala Khan into the X-Men books is completely inappropriate. Although I enjoyed her first series, she has become THE character for Marvel to promote diversity and wokeness (see the NYX series for how the writers depicted her as a self-righteous, insufferable activist). What makes it even worse, is that her new status as a mutant feels completely unnatural and forced.

As if that wasn’t enough, making her the focus character of these Giant-Size issues feels completely unearned and is a slap in the face of any X-fan. If you don’t see the problem, you probably haven’t been a reader of the X-books for longer than two years.

The X-books haven’t always been a metaphor for minorities. And although I don’t mind if people interpret the stories that way, tthey should remain open to interpretation, not manifestos of DEI politics.

The X-Books have ALWAYS been a metaphor for minorities and marginalized communities. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were Jewish. They were persecuted, their families were persecuted. They created X-Men to reflect that. You probably haven't been a reader of X-books for their entire history.

I admit, that would make a lot of sense, wouldn’t it? Unfortunately, it’s not true. Lee and Kirby came up with the mutant concept because they didn’t want to invent more origin stories. Stan Lee actually admitted that. Now, it’s true that the concept lent itself to stories about minorities and persecution for being different. However, the metaphor was still open to interpretation. They didn’t shove the indoctrination down our throats, which is what they are doing now.

Educate yourself Chris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhtkT0IeavA

It’s funny you created this profile just to crap on my review and push the average rating of this book.

Anti-woke cry babies can't stand being called out for their bigotry.