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At this point, I cannot say Tom King is a talented writer. I never read Sheriff of Babylon, and I only read through issue 6 of Vision (I had no background with the character). But Omega Men was the only thing I've read of his that had a coherent story. Batman has been all over the place, but has trended to garbage. And Mister Miracle was garbage disguised as philosophy. There is no plot, no resolution, no continuity, no morality, no purpose. Just B.S. philosophy, a suicide, and an open ending.

Miracle Man is the most over-praised, over-hyped book in the last forty years.

could not have said it better myself!

The problem was leaving him on this book. DC should have pulled him from the book 50 issues ago and let someone else pick up all the dangling plot lines. It's not like King is doing well with tying any of it together.

i'd go as far to say that he should have never been put on as high profile a book as Batman. he just never bother to do any real research into the characters nor did he set up some sort of plan what to to with this run. it's felt like he's been just making this SH%$ up as he goes, and digging himself a deeper and deeper hole. he's still never bother to answer many of the questions that were brought up early on. with the amount of filler in this run, it's obvious he has no answers. he's a hack.

i can't say i blame Romita or Janson. it must have been agonizingly painful to illustrate this cancer incarnate trash fire of a script.

I think the art is still the best in this.

May as well be. But personally I think it's still anything but good. Absolutely awful comic.

King has wasted every opportunity to explore the interesting characters in his run. He thinks it is deep to reiterate that Batman and Catwoman are soulmates. Gotham Girl? Not explored. Thomas Wayne Batman from a different universe? Not explained. Bane? Glossed over.

Yeah, absolutely. Shame, since he set up Gotham Girl as a key figure in the run, and then she appeared pretty much only in a terrible crossover with Flash, made out of literal scraps and leftovers. What a waste. Thomas, Bane and Selina as well weren't explored at all. Seems like bloody Kite Man has more depth than all of them combined at this point.

all excellent points Superheroes for Hire. i'm pretty sure Tom King had no idea what he was doing when he was put on Batman. he just rode the wave of hype and praise and let it go to his head. DC being the fools they are stuck him on the book another 50 issues. a decision that would bite them in the ass. at least someone was smart enough to cut this mess short. pity they couldn't do it sooner and save us this current arc. the series should have just ended with Batman kicking a tree.

I am not surprised Kite Man is better written, since Kite Man is a D villain therefore not explored much. King however didn't know anything about Bruce, Selina, Bane etc.

Imo, the extreme praise he got when the Bat/Cat stuff hit changed the overall direction and then became a crutch when things went bad and then the downfall when the wedding didn't happen. If this issue doesn't show there was never an overall story plan, i don't know what does. Worst part, most of the stuff people hate were always there, it was just new and we were not used to it or annoyed by it yet.

He writes in such an ambiguous, let the reader fill in the blanks way that it's silly to think most of these things were a plan. It would be nice if any of yhese things were something you would go back and see clues that we just didn't recognize at the time, but sadly, that's not the case

i don't know how people praised this run so much in the beginning. i thought it was terrible after the very first issue. ... "i'M gOnNa HaVe To DiE iN oRdEr To SaVe EvErYoNe On ThE pLaNe. wOuLd MoThEr AnD FaThEr Be PrOuD?"

Weird Science Jim - it's so true that he used the Bat/Cat thing as a crutch after his run started nosediving. he's such a boob that he couldn't even get that right though. it's only fitting that this run end in such a disaster.

Lol...look back atvyhe first issue snd when Gotham Girl and Gotham save the plane, Batman says "Clark?" Even though Superman was dead at that point! I liked the first arc, actually, but have you ever seen a writer be so careless with their own character (Gotham Girl) or actuall seem to write them OOC? She is one of the few original things he did and has just messes her up!!!

Forgive my phone typing skills!

no worries. my typing skills are bollocks, and i'm using a keyboard. - Now that you mention it, that always did strike me as weird that Batman said "Clark?" even though NewFiftyTwoperman had just died. - he really is so inconsistent with his writing. he can't even decide if he wants Batman to be a blubbering depressed crybaby, or an omniscient OP badass. King still never even gave a proper explanation as to Gotham Girl & Bro's powers, or Bane's motivation for going after Batman the way he is.

*Tom King's Bane* - "I WILL BREAK THE BATMAN!!!" . . . *Fans* - "Why is that, exactly?" . . . *Tom King's Bane* - "BECAUSE CHUCK DIXON'S KNIGHTFALL IS VERY POPULAR!!"

Lol basically myconius King really made me hate Bane. I am sick of him.

Darkseid24 - i know. i'm pretty Bane'd out myself. but just remember, Just like Tom King's Batman, this is not really Bane. ALL of these characters that King has been writing are just weird twisted & perverted versions of them. i say in all honesty that Tom King is the WORST Batman writer i have ever read. even WORSE than Neal Adams. and that's really saying something.

Agreed, but he is still not the worst for me. Nothing beats Darkseid War in crappy writing for me ( And hopefully never will). I hope Tynion is doing a little better. Didnt like his Detective Comics& B&RE also sucked.

Detective Comics has been going down lately as well, I'd say it's okay, but not much more. I didn't even feel like reviewing its last issue or two.

Nihilist - Agreed! I that damn bi-weekly deadline is burning Tomasi out. the quality is not consistant, and we've been getting a series of "good arc, bad arc..." and the overall quality has been steadily dwindling. I'm hard pressed to keep buying it, but my respect for Tomasi as a creator and as a person are the only reasons I really stay with this series.

*I THINK that damn bi-weekly deadline is burning Tomasi out.

Like I said Tomasi can be very mediocre. Happened before in Arkham War& in the Arkham Knight comics. Wouldnt blame the bi-weekly schedule, since other writers still deliver. DC overall just currently has only mediocre writers.

as far as i'm concerned, every writer that has been on the bi-weekly has been turning in S#%T stories. even the runs that started out good eventually turned into crap. ...but i do think that DC has been filling their ranks with more and more crap writers. Bendis, King... it's getting to the point where i just want to re-read back-issues.

Yeah, I agree. It's just big names they care about, not really paying attention to what they write. Look at DC Black Label - it' been a disaster, with most of the material being plain terrible, but hey, DC's gotta release something, anything, because they've created a mature brand, so it needs to be kept alive. And then the bi-weekly series, so the flagship properties are monetized, even if it hurts their reputation and quality in the long run...

Nihilist - excellent points made on all topics!

I like majority of Black Label titles, but apart from the cursing nothing is in it, that justifies Black Label. Doug Moench wrote good stories& he wrote Detective Comics& Batman both for a while. So I think writers can, if they actually are talented enough.

if you think you cannot understand anything anymore, King never understood any of it. this mess of a run truly feels like he went into this completely blind with NO plan. ...he's been phoning it in and coasting along on all the praise he gets from the 'Perfect 10' shills.

"No plan until you realize you have to give DC something so you make up some crap that makes it seem like it was all part of the plan" seems like the routine King went with this.